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To all the php haters: Try Symfony with Doctrine and Twig.

Doesn't fix the language but makes your life a lot easier (and it even adds Annotation support to php)

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    But the other dev said laravel is much better and the other dev said php is shit and the other one said it's not so shitty anymore since php7. And you say you need a a framework in order to fix php shortcommings. So something is wrong here.
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