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Is it just me or do a lot of job ads seem daunting? Companies seem to expect you to know pretty much every major tech stack, and pay less than 35k and in some cases as low as 28k... Unbelievable 🙄

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  • 7
    If you were a company what would you look for, cheap workforce with low skills or cheap workforce with high skills?
  • 7
    They’re just fishing for suckers
  • 3
    I've seen companies like this and have been contacted by a few. Just swipe left and find something else. The companies going somewhere usually pay well.
  • 1
    @yellow-dog higher for lower skills, developers made to feel worthy are more productive and more likely to take on new learning challenges to develop themselves, and the company they serve.
  • 3
    @raging-coder101 do that, tell me how it goes
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    Its a total joke. I can't find it right now, but I remember a rant post either here or twitter someone found a job post requesting 5+ years of react native experience, when it only came out in 2015. For example, I just found a job posting that wants 4+ years of kotlin experience....

    https://indeed.com/jobs/...

    when kotlin's FIRST release came out in 2016.... so its April 2020.... hmmmm pretty hard to have 4+ years!!

    Not to mention a solid version that everyone was using - that probably wasn't really true until 2018 or so.

    So its a big joke.
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    @fullstackchris most of the ads are written by clueless HR pukes who have no clue whatsoever, they're just striving to justify bilking their customers.
    Some are chicks who sucked cocks to get the job/contract and are even more motivated because they want to show their coworkers that's not how they got it.
    Maybe there's room in the market for more technically capable recruiters... in case any of y'all get bored of coding for a living - you'll be surprised how easy it is to make money as a recruiter, people are dumb and tech people have no street-smarts.
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    @yellow-dog you'd rather have developers being paid next to nothing and doing a half-arsed job for you? Rather than one being paid more but willing and motivated to take on any challenge you throw at them and do it to a high standard? If you set an extremely high standards for a very poor return the companies are failing themselves... Poor wages by their very design, result in poor productivity and the "fuck it I'm not paid enough for this shit" mentality, which, directly impacts companies and will kill companies anyway... Im literally watching his happen to a company I am working for right now.
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    @raging-coder101 no, i would rather have capable developers work for the least amount of money that makes them willing to work, what you are saying is just straight up overpaying your employees. Companies put up job offers with every technology you might need, so if you know like half of them, thats good enough, but nobody wants someone who calls themselves a senior and can only do core python or whatever
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    It’s crisis time so lots of shitty companies are looking for slaves with high skills right now.
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    You can't hire shit developers (cheap) as they produce shit code.

    And you can't hire the best developers (expensive) either :)

    This is most businesses fail to understand. They just mindlessly look for the "best of the best of the best of the best rockstar" but forget the consequences of hiring such people: they need other people just like them to work with, they will not feel at home within juniors/average, they dislike bad management (and to them MOST management is bad in some way), they produce code that nobody else but people with similar abilities will be able to work with properly, and they are usually expensive.

    The name of the game: Growing up to the point where we realize life doesn't work if we keep dealing in extremes. Finding that sweet spot somewhere in the middle where ability is balanced with pay and everything else. Main ingredient for major accomplishments: persistence. Not talent or skill.

    It also helps if your daddy is a millionaire and if you have big tits.
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    @raging-coder101 you average business, keeps one skilled employee on staff for every four or five other employees with the same role. Reason behind it is that for every specialized task that comes up, it brings 10x the amount of basic scut work with it. In this typical scenario, only one of those employees is not expendable, the rest can be replaced with one quick phone call to any given recruiting agency.

    But as far as the ads go, if you see one that list every requirement under the sun then odds are someone in hr wrote the ad based on everything the company uses or has used in the past rather than it being specific to whatever dept they've got an opening in.

    On the other hand if you see one that lists a lot of requirements but only one or two options for each use case, then odds are they need a full stack dev and at least some knowledge is required in everything mentioned.

    That's my take on it anyway. I've been browsing through job listing for over a month now.
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    Oh and it gets worst if you look for a remote position outside US
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