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lolcube
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Aaaaarggghhh

Having to think about what and when to eat is such a fucking pain in the ass. I don't want to search for recipes. I don't want to think about nutrition. I don't want to count calories. I just want something to tell me exactly what to eat, when I should eat and what to buy. Same goes for workout routines. Just tell me what to do I'll do it. I want an autopilot for that sort of stuff so I don't have to ducking think about it anymore. It's such a giant waste of time to have to manually plan this shit through, I want to use my brain for other things like math or chemistry or Programming. In fact I don't even want to cook because I am alone and cooking for one person is so ducking pointless. I lost over 40kg in the last years. I learned my lesson, most things taste like shit now because I associate food with all the pain and depression that I had to overcome to achieve a normal weight and fit body. Food went from being a joy to being an annoying necessity. I got fit and I want to work out even more but I really don't want to think about this shit. The exercises and pain and hunger are all nothing but planning is my true enemy. It bores me to death, it's more painful than running until I break down I absolutely fucking hate it.

I am really close to start some kind of open source food planner where you can type in your goals ( weight loss, muscle gain etc.) In great detail with all kind of options ( vegetarian, vegan, allergies, budget, country where you live in for local recipes etc.) And it generates a food plan for you with exact details of where exactly to buy the ingredients how to cook them etc. No fancy Ui No bullshit ads for some kind of wonder drug nothing annoying. Something so easy that it can be used as an autopilot for ones fitness and life. Do what it says and you'll look decent, don't think about the rest. Having that would be so great and I could finally think about more important shit than this. Less overhead more time for things that can't be automated.

And Yes I know that this is exactly what a personal trainer would do, but I am not going to spend 600€ a month for someone to tell me exactly what to buy, what to eat and how to work out.

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  • 0
    I want an autopilot too for workouts, can you deliver it at the end of this week?
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    @alexbrooklyn sure. Task 1. Jump from bridge.

    On a more serious note. That should totally be possible right? I mean just the plan. I really don't mind the exercises I just hate planning it. It should at least be possible for looking decent / fit. Doesn't have to be for Arnold.
  • 4
    It depends.

    You would need a database like FDDB.

    That will be the hard part...

    And FDDBs stuff is a lot of times missing nutrient information Like vitamins.

    Which is the second hard part: combining stuff so you don't die of Skorbut.
  • 3
    The nutrition isn't that difficult. Veggis should make up half of the meals and count as zero (except potatos and stuff), rest is some shit high in protein that you look up once. Plus maybe some carbs on workout days.

    Oh and nattys will never look like Arnie.
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    @Fast-Nop yeah I know nutrition. Had to deal with that shit for long enough. I just don't want to think about what to eat anymore, recipes are a pain and eating the same everyday isn't fun either. And my goal isn't Arnie. I am a coder not a bodybuilder but I want to look decent and at least be attractive enough for some cute girl. Health is a bonus too. I just hate thinking about anything food related after fighting myself for so long. Loosing over 40kg and becoming fit isn't easy and I just don't want to think about it anymore
  • 1
    @IntrusionCM well it'd be community driven like Wikipedia. It might not be perfect but better than paying for some random fitness app. And I don't want to auto generate recipes. Just have a DB with many recipes and their corresponding nutrition values including Vitamins etc.
  • 2
    @lolcube It's the same as with driving. Initially, you need to think about this and that, but once it becomes ingrained habit, you just do it. Same with nutrition. And once you have reached your desired weight, it's checking weekly whether to eat a bit more or less, no big deal.

    Sure, if you enter the domain of bulk and cut cycles, it becomes more complicated, but you can instead go for lean gains.
  • 2
    @Fast-Nop yes definitively. I can control my weight down to +- 200g without even needing a scale. But building muscles, Abs etc. is a different thing... I am just at a point where I need to do more to look better / become more fit and just the thought of having to plan more and having to think about training plans makes me sick to the point of wanting to jump out of my window. I know that it's not that much but I am just so tired of it. I've got real problems with planning stuff and having routines in any aspect of life though... Chaos makes me happy and knowing what I'll do in advance makes me depressed. I hate routine haha

    Edit: I'll look into lean gains thanks!
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    @Fast-Nop oh lol I just learned what lean gains is and I already do it by accident. I only eat once a day since almost 8 months now haha :D maybe that's why I am losing more and more weight.... 77kg 183cm now
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    @lolcube Congrats! Other useful keywords are "body recomposition". Of course, fat doesn't turn into muscle, that's not directly possible, but you can gain muscle while reducing fat (i.e. in a caloric deficit).

    The "however" is that you can only do that as overweight beginner. That's why the pro lifters who already have quite some muscle mass and low fat say it's impossible - because for them, it is.

    Interesting fact, especially given that you aren't overweight now: 1kg of body fat equals 7000kcal, but it can only release 70kcal within a day. If you know how many kg of body fat you have (via body fat percentage), you can calculate what deficit the body can cover through burning fat. So if you have 20kg of body fat, it can deliver 1400kcal per day.

    Any higher deficit than that, and muscle breakdown will likely start.
  • 1
    @Fast-Nop wow thanks I didn't know that. :D I definitively want to continue. I think my frustration with planning comes from all the bullshit you hear when you're overweight and want to loose a large amount of fat. You know ... the forest of BS ads and miracle programs etc. I think the hardest part that also taught me a lot was accepting physical and mental pain when working out or running. I think that benefited me in many other ways as well. I'll just continue to work on myself and hope it'll pay out one day ( you know the cute girl thing :P ) I just got frustrated with all the BS that people tell you regarding fitness. That's also something running taught me: No pain, no gain. Or at least that pain is a part of it no matter what any miracle bullshitters tell you in order to steal your money.
  • 1
    @lolcube Totally agree, No pain, no gain! ^^

    As long as the pain is healthy (in a medical sense), overcoming that even helps your personality. Many people lack frustration tolerance, and that makes them insecure quitters.

    Please note that too much cardio can interfere with building up muscle because it ramps up cortisol, which drives down testosterone. That goes especially if you omit the rest days or don't sleep enough.

    However, if you're still in your 20s, it's not as much of a problem because you still have youth on your side.

    On the other hand, marathon runners don't even want to seriously build muscle because that hinders running.
  • 1
    @Fast-Nop yes. Definitively. 19 btw. School was fun with 118kg. Running really helped me with building up my frustration level.
  • 0
    Planning bores you? 😮

    I'm an INTJ; planning is the most fun I ever have. That savior Ni, yo.
  • 0
    @Root no. Specifically planning what to cook etc bores me. I like planning IT related stuff
  • 1
    HOLY SHIT I could not agree with this statement more.
  • 3
    Seriously dude, I am the same as you - no problem exercising but I absolutely can't stand anything to with cooking and meal plans. Just kill me. The worst thing is you spend SO much goddamn time thinking of what to get and then collecting prepping cooking and then cleaning up the 5 minutes of acctually eating. UGH.
  • 1
    @bonegarden :D I know right? Finally someone who gets me. Wanna go out for dinner some time? xD

    OK sry. Enough harassment for today :P but seriously finally someone who's as lazy as me when it comes to this.
  • 1
    @lolcube For the "cute girls" aspect, there's a scientific analysis which type of fitness guy gets laid the most:

    https://youtube.com/watch/...
  • 1
    @Fast-Nop haha :D god damn it I swear a friend of mine looks 100% like your avatar and from what I can tell your personality is at least a 90%+ match as well.

    Oh and I just want one long term xD but thanks for the link :D
  • 1
    Hm… I went to a nutritionist for several months because I needed to lose weight, and what I learned can be summarized in several bullet points:

    * Breakfast and lunch should have sufficient carbs (about 60g uncooked per person), such as bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, or some classes of vegetables

    * Dinner should best omit the carbs

    * Add 50g–100g (uncooked) per person of whatever provides proteins, like meat, chicken, fish, eggs, or plant-based substitutes

    * Fill it up with plenty of vegetables and fruit (of whichever type that does not count as carbs)

    * For snacks in between, use vegetables and fruit as much as possible

    * No need for super-elaborate cooking: great meals can be prepared and cooked in the oveen or using the wok in 30–45 minutes in probably 85% of cases

    * Experiment with spices; some trial and error should help you figure it out

    * Basic spices for most meals are salt and black pepper
  • 1
    Unfortunately, unless you want to go for pre-packaged meals from the supermarket fridge, you will have to invest a little bit of thinking in your cooking. Also, I get that at 19 years old that is probably a bit daunting (I knew jack shit about cooking when I was 19). Like anything, it's a question of 'practice makes perfect,' I guess…

    I'd say, learn to cook five or six basic meals, try to combine the parts into new meals, cook enough for three times so you can freeze the leftovers and eat them another day, and find something new to add once a month or so, then it should be less tedious.
  • 0
    @SomeNone this is going to be weird to say after this rant but I am actually decent at cooking and even baking and I like to do it BUT only when I have time and nothing else to do. I absolutely hate everyday cooking. I just hate it when I have to do it because I am hungry.
  • 0
    @lolcube @@SomeNone If you wonder what I do now: I go to restaurants everyday and spend 25€ there for a healthy meal but I am at a point where this gets boring. I can totally afford this but there are only so many restaurants that offer healthy and good tasting vegetarian (I am one) meals. If I am not specifically in the mood to cook something for fun, my fridge is 100% empty.
  • 0
    @lolcube It's my least favourite adult thing LOL and I'll have to rain check on the dinner date, because I am ten years older than you and two useless cooks in a relationship doesn't solve the problem, as my boyfriend and I have already found out ;P In another dimension perhaps bahahaha
  • 1
    @bonegarden haha :D too bad. Was worth the trying anyways. :P
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