Have you ever felt like you don't want to fall asleep?

I do feel that quite often but I don't know why.

Too much stress could be a reason. A while ago, I found this technique very helpful https://youtu.be/FWGuy4oOQgQ.
And for myself, it was helpful to sleep without a pillow. After two challenging weeks, my sleep was much better than before.

Try some melatonin vitamins?

@Stuxnet self medication is bad hmkay

Yes - in the middle of the day when I'm meant to be working.

At night it's usually the opposite - I want to fall asleep and I can't.

Pretty convinced I should just be nocturnal.

Every night Sunday through Thursday. When I sleep, it means I have to get up and work. If I stay up instead, I have some precious time to myself, though I’m usually too tired to actually enjoy it.

@IntrusionCM It's a fucking V I T A M I N.

Calm down karen. I didn't tell him to go buy a shit ton of percs or down a bottle of Zquil.

@Stuxnet it's not that I'm don't feel sleepy, I just don't feel like allowing myself to fall asleep.

@iiii i am the same way. I got two choices, couple of glasses of tequila, couple of beers, whiskey ooooor melatonin. All items over the counter(tee hee)

I pop 3 20 something grams of melatonin and I won't be able to fight the urge to stay awake. I forgot the name of the condition, but people really be out there trying to stay up even if they feel that tiredness man it's horrible.

I hate it, but I love it.

@AleCx04 I fight all my life. Might as well fight the sleep too.

@iiii ok well like @AleCx04 said.

You won't be able to resist it.

@Root now THAT'S a trooper

@IntrusionCM do people require a prescription for melatonin in Germany? Here it is the same for us as buying aspirin or stuff like that. It is recommended to check with a physician, but most of them wave the thing away like its nothing and just tell you not to drive after you take them

@Root your story feels like something similar. Sometimes I do feel like I don't want a day to end, so the new won't start (silly meat brain doesn't know how days work)

@Stuxnet it's not a vitamin. it's a hormone.

Very big difference.

@AleCx04 not sure, usually there's a limit per pill (like up to 0.5 mg per pill is sellable, above needs a perscription)

Melatonin as a hormone isn't bad as long as it's "once in a few weeks". For long term treatment it's definitely a No No, as hormonal changes could occur.

Side effects of hormonal changes... Sleep deprivation, depression, suicidal thoughts, ...

The limit per pill is a bit ridiculous as you just need to take more pills - it' just a bit of math.

@IntrusionCM sure thing chief.

You're making it sound 1000x worse than it is, but ok.

@IntrusionCM I didn't know about the limit per pill, but that would be very good actually because most melatonin pills are dosed way too high. If you take too much you're probably gonna be sleepy the next day because it won't be all processed yet. It's better to take a smaller dose to get to a natural level.

And yes, don't take it every day for months. If you always get external melatonin, what's the incentive for your body to produce its own? Though I'm not sure whether changes in hormone production occur, you could definitely develop a psychological dependency.

@saucyatom as always, only a doctor knows.

Maybe. xD

Joke aside, I had the discussion few times with few doctors (specifically about melantonin, but a few others as well).

Ask 5 doctors, you'll seldomly get 5 times the same answer.

The honest ones will say: We don't understand the human body fully. We can try for a short time to use XY, but long time treatment can have all kind of side effects and I cannot support that.

The bad ones will say: Here's your receipt, have a nice day.

I like the honest ones... Bad ones severely fucked up my life.