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Study the night before and vomit knowledge all over the test, and all you are gonna get from it is the score.
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@gosubinit bro.. What i meant was.. I study the concepts and understand them. The problem is .. Getting good marks for the same in exams! Indians will understand my feeling :p
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flag020328y@rokrapoorv I know what you are talking about. It sucks. Many times you can't even get technical because they what basic explanation. These days I just work on my projects for learning. Go to college for some sleep and attendance. And why the fuck is attendance compulsory anyways?
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nmunro31908yI was an academic but I lack the ability to recall information I don't understand. Too many facts or algorithms to remember, if I can't understand them I can't accurately regurgitate them.
I only started getting good marks in my final year once I'd begun to actually understand stuff. -
@nmunro It is easy to say that. I am not saying that i don't like studying.. I am saying the way you have to write answers to make your teachers understand is pathetic. Maybe i am exaggerating a little bit but still...
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abhn4788y@rokrapoorva 75% attendence and semester exams xD sounds like you're my Mumbai university brother!
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BashJS11568yDuring these exams, thoughts about "what would I would be coding if currently there are no exams" arises every damn time !!!
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rheaditi338yI had a feeling, before I saw the comments, that you'd be from India.
I empathize. Been there, done & hated that. -
@rokrapoorv I'm having end semester exams too, and its pathetic. There's no CS subject this semester, only electronics, although I'm pursuing CS.
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flag020328y@nmunro here, it's not about that. There aren't many algorithms to cover, just the basics one. And I think that's the problem. We aren't reached practically. Take C++ for example. Now teaching the basics of the language is fine. But you are using a proprietary IDE from the 90s and including headers distributed with that specific IDE and using modifications to language/syntax to that IDE meaning without modifications, even basic programs won't work with modern compiler like clang or gpp. In networking, we are still learning that there is a star topology with a hub in center, there is a bus topology, and stuff. You see, this isn't detailed. It feels like content you'd teach to sixth graders. And what I am doing is not a minor extra or high school subject. This if a freaking bachelor degree in IT/CS. We are tought stuff that modern practices say you avoid. We are told to use Java and flash for UI programming. We are studying stuff nobody used anymore. companies are moving away from it.
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@flag0
Lol your view is rather pessimistic sir. I believe we need to be taught basics first like, how the programming and development has evolved over years.
My only complaint is that academics in some cases doesn't truly reflect one's actual potential. :) -
flag020328y@rokrapoorv yes. But basics can be tought using something modern too. And I'd not be angry if we could move past the basics and go higher. But that whole sem is spent teaching stuff that shouldn't have taken more than a week is pathetic. And then there's the fact that you aren't encouraged to actually tinker or build stuff. The best way of getting good scores is mugging up. How in a sane world is that the best way. And add to it the fact that my college which has some of the best ratings somehow and is counted in one of the best bachelor degree colleges in the state and perhaps even in country somehow has instructors that themselves are incapable of understanding the stuff let alone teaching just makes me angry. People who mug up are pushed by them. Fucking assholes.
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flag020328y@flag0 @rokrapoorv also while teaching basics, you'd rather teach the students thats universal rather than stuff that is specific to stuff that is from the past and should not be brought in present. Even if they make stuff easy, you'd expect to take the training wheels off at some point. CS50 is a great example of this. They get you started with a custom library of theirs and then after you get comfortable with real basics, they move towards the standard methods.
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nmunro31908y@flag0 I was taught star, bus and mesh topologies too, I did my project in Python however I was STRONGLY advised to used tcl/tk.
We were taught a language called Mozart/Oz, which at the time had a grand total of 0 text books on the subject. Now, several years later I think there might be 1... Talk about fucking useless language to learn.
Oh we were also taught about the basics of how and why and anti virus program is important, which to use the uni network, you needed to install and activate an approved anti virus program. So it's not as if we'd have gotten far without already knowing how to do that.
A subject called emerging technologies had us design a bloody poster for 40% of the final grade.
There was even a module called history of video games and I was told its final exam was a 30 question multiple choice answer which featured such questions as:
"What is the name of this famous plumber?"
A) "Wario", B) "Louige" C) "Mario", D) "Frank"
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flag020328y@nmunro hey atleast it's history of video games and not of Java and SQL.
Also, TIL about TCL
Our fourth semester project is creating an interactive experience using scratch. Now scratch is good as a beginner tool if you want to introduce somebody to programming but you want fucking Bachelor students to use it more than halfway through the cource?
Fuck academics! End semester exams are ucking waste of time ! Just need to study one night before and on exam ay 'vomit' all my memory onto the paper. Fuck it. I AM done.
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fuck exams!