Am I the only dev being in the universe who hates dealing with non technical PMs and POs?

Every time I interact with them I just want to kill myself.

PS: I still think their roles are important. Just hire people that know what they are doing.

You're not alone.

Most of the time these guys are willing to learn but have no idea how.

Experience tip: It's not really your role, but if you try to educate them technically they will be grateful and your life will be easier.

No we all do

Yeah I've had pretty stupid bosses. The best projects are where they give a very specific idea, but let me choose the time and resources to do so. I guess the general public would benefit from better (and mandatory) computer classes in high school.

No, they are truly awful to deal with.

true answer to this is that it is not a lot of managers from IT so only few knows what they are doing and those are already working in the companies. This is one of the reasons why companies sometimes looking who can be mananger from the devs. Otherwise the rest are just managers from different fields and they do not know much about IT. Try to find language which wirks the best for both of you so they will understand probkem and you will be less frustated.

Fun fact: In Denmark you can take a masters in IT management. None of the bachelors leading up to the masters are in IT and it has no lectures on IT 🙃

The best superior I have ever had the pleasure to work with was non-technical. We were doing a variant of agile without distinct sprints but with very strict rules that somehow worked out. She had a medior or senior sign out on all tickets from management or QA and devs were encouraged to include refactoring in the schedule in exactly the same shape as features, so people didn't have a visual cue to ignore all green label tickets when looking through the backlog. She was technically subordinate to most people involved in the project but had an aura that made everyone shut up unless they really had something to say. The lack of technical knowledge allowed her to simply listen to the devs and decades of experience gave her a good understanding of how development works.

@homo-lorens similar experience for me too. My two best bosses were non-technical. They focussed on making the development process smoother and making sure that we were working with the clients on the right problem.
But they both trusted the team in how those problems were solved and if we needed some time to refactor something we couldn’t just absorb as part of normal work they never questioned it. It was all about mutual trust.