I understand that some websites had Flash bullshit because they wrote it 20 years ago and were just never fucked to re-write it.

But why, oh why, the FUCK did some companies decide to use Flash even after EOL was announced??

Examples: Xfinity (TV online streaming), Tidal (HD Music)... I always had to find some way to use their shit in 2019/2020 because Firefox did NOT want me to use Flash (understandable).

Were there an advantages that made these companies choose Flash, even faced with the fact that they would need to rewrite it in a few years AND users needed to go through hoops just to use their bullshit??

There must have been! Why else would they do it?

I’ll never be happy again

You people just sucked the life out of me destroying the world and yourselves

I want to scream but I have no will
Though I have the voice
I want to cry but I do not want to shed the tears in front of you all
I want to kill you all but I’d be at it forever
I want to run but there is nowhere to go
There is just an ocean of filthy animals and I’m drowning in the waves

Most of all I want someone to speak the truth just once
But truth is just a lie to them and in a language they never learned

@killames Can you be fucking insane somewhere else

Flash was the bomb, it was easy to produce anything from utility apps to full blown software and everything in between, then the iPhone became a thing and the world pivoted bringing us Canvas and html5 to replace it.

Why sites decided to stick with flash?
Well it's probably a case of "if it ain't broken, don't fix it", except in this instance of web, flash wasn't broken for them - but the industry declared it as dead and they failed to jump ship into the modern world.

I wouldn't think tidal would be using flash, but then the corporate world is a mysterious thing though and usually hires ancient devs with ancient stacks to solve modern problems 😁

Took me a long time to admit that it was dead, I'd not long started to make alright money doing Flash when Apple killed it, and because it was Jobs, the reasons seemed disingenuous even if they were actually sound enough. The Flash IDE was shit hot, FlashBuilder was a decent eclipse mod and AS3 was basically TypeScript. HTML5 has more or less caught up, feature-wise, but it took a while, and I still haven't found anything to match the Flash editor (I gather it was reborn with Animate, to do HTML5, but I've not had time to check it out).

@C0D4 Now we have stacks that compile other code to javascript. I feel like this was step backwards.

@Demolishun this is true, and there were a few AS to JS compilers anyway, so if you write more backend logic with AS you could have ported it out.

But flash really was the fancy interactive tool and back in the day was kinda fun making 3D cube websites, you don't see that anymore.

@AlgoRythm sure how about your mothers place
Can you be a liar somewhere else ?

@AlgoRythm ohh another shades guy

@molaram name some flash that wasn’t crappy games a video player or some joke sites or porn
Or some kind of site decoration
Betcha you can’t
It’s not like it’s the few Java programs that were decent like pycharm or vue from tufts
It’s all stuff that eventually I relevant got converted to videos

@molaram @Demolishun

I don't think Flash was fundamentally worse than the slow, buggy, bloated JS transpiling mess most websites are now.

Not at a technological level.

The issue with Flash was mostly corporate short term greed & shortsightedness.

Flash Player was a trojan foothold for Adobe on billions of devices. Too easy to abuse, low hanging fruit for marketeers.

Say hello to ads & bundleware (why don't you try premium Adobe Acrobat for 14 days), royalty fees (stage3d), and tiny scandals around Adobe-controlled DRM, security/privacy flaws, and hate from the Linux and OSX communities.

Adobe had already sentenced Flash to death, way before Steve Jobs gave it the final blow. If Apple hadn't stabbed Flash in the heart so publicly, then Google would have, sooner or later.

But from a technical point of view... I think if Flash had been an open technology, maybe it would have completely been integrated in rendering engines and have replaced both HTML & JS by now.

I've never had anything Tidal/Flash related pop up and I've been using Tidal 2 years, where are you getting that from?

Flash can get fucked, I'm glad it is dead. Adobe can suck it.

@87percentrum it was a while ago. I actually wanted about it at the time. If you can find the rant you can get when they last used Flash lol

@molaram such vehemence over a true statement ! that bet isn’t valid anyway since because you had time to look up examples lol

@molaram and btw sorry for the reversal you mimicked from years back making you look dumb lol

I was mostly saying that because your ilk kept stealing my code and other things gradually reducing my will to live or try anything new because I can’t accumulate enough points on a map to figure out what to do next heh

@killames do you like vegetables?

@MM83 that’s very random

@molaram are you two talking in your creepy code ?

@molaram you are aren’t you lol

@killames I've always been fond of root crops, but I only started to grow last year. Do you grow?

@MM83 Some people raise fish too. I wonder if they are tasty.

@Demolishun you little traitor. I find the carrot infinitely more fascinating than the fish.

@MM83 ....

@killames the carrot has mystery

@MM83 got one here for everyone commenting
It’s a big one
Fed it all day

@killames I'm running out of Uncle Monty quotes now

@MM83 Gob Shite!

@MM83 well then perhaps the old memory would be stimulated by some nice thick hot Italian sausage
I just happen to have one mouth filler right here lol

@killames Hmmm, excuse me. Do help yourself to another drink.