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You know what's funny?

Gender bias at work is usually AGAINST MALES, like seriously I had a great year in my new job and I'm happy about it, but end up finding out that the boss awarded only females in our team๐Ÿ˜’

If society should stop treating women like objects well how about treating men like human beings?

There was weeks where I saved the bosse's ass and worked for over 60 HOURS and still nothing.

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    It is an expectation game, and you lost.
    Your boss expected you would work 60h weeks, and save his ass. So - you did not exceed his expectations. This means no bonus/recognition for you. Other ppl (male or female does not matter) had set low expectation bar, and made sure to exceed them - Boss expected 20 hours of work per week, and got 30! Bonus for them!

    Always lower the expectations as much as possible. And, if you are expected to work 60h/week regularly - then leave, and go work somewhere with reasonable expectations.
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    No, it's not. Is your CEO a woman? How many women are in the C level? Senior management?

    At the VAST MAJORITY of companies, the answer is either "None" or "not many".

    There are likely to be more "overt" actions taken to favour those under represented individuals. But that doesn't mean there isn't anything it's trying to balance out.

    We have built in preferences to favour people like us, people that "fit". Case in point, you complaining because *this year*, only women have been awarded in your team. If it's only been women ever, if your entire c suite is women, if you get snide remarks made about you in the hallway for being a man, if people dismiss your ideas coz you're a man, if they pass you over for promotion because you might have kids, get back to me.

    Otherwise, stop being a butt-hurt little bitch and try to see things from the other side, the bigger picture.
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    Go read up about diversity, inclusivity and some statistics on discrimination.

    Case in point, 50% of managers would be "uncomfortable" recruiting and line managing a neurodiverse individual.

    There's more discussion about the discrimination women face (from their perspective) in the below rant and a few others. Happy to share other links.

    https://devrant.com/rants/4781731/...
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    @ostream chill, @molaram made reasonable comments and wasn't OP. OP comments were a bit inflammatory, but you've just thrown fuel on the fire by being rude to the wrong person.
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    @thirdworld I *do* get the point, and given I've literally faced discrimination in my job, fuck you with the SJW comment.

    Your job sounds like it's gone to a different extreme. I agree that's not desirable. But the extreme you're describing is *RARE*.
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    Raised a grievance last week with regards to disability stuff.
  • 2
    @thirdworld you kind of invited people to bash you in the way you worded your rant and by not sharing some of the other details you shared in the comments.

    That said, I don't agree with people basically telling you others have it worse.

    Rant in peace and for peace.

    The hikes/promotions only matter if your take home changes significantly. If you were already earning 100 and the females are now getting 100 too, there's little to lament about. If you think you deserved better talk with your manager/HR and ask why you didn't get a raise. If the reasons are flimsy, it's possible you were discriminated against and you should consider moving to a better place. If not, you know what you need to work on.
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    Not everything has to be about US vs THEM.
    At least keep the unity between US, the devs vs THEM, the management.
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    Strange definition of ‘usually’ you have here
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    @thirdworld The solution is to leave such a toxic place. Let the women they hired prove their worth.
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    @MM83 ohh shut up.
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    @thirdworld I will if you stop blaming women for the fact that your boss thinks you’re a big David Cassidy
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    @MM83 When did I blame women? I blamed my boss?
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    @thirdworld it's a long way from one bloke's boss to "usually"

    ...but this thread's enough of a bombsite, let's just agree that your boss and you both think that Troy was a really good film and that you particularly liked Brad Pitt's acting in it.
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    Ah yes gender bias hehe welcome to reality. Do you know why and how Amber Heard won the case? Do you know why the judge of that case is happy? ๐Ÿ’ฆ๐Ÿคค๐Ÿ‘
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    This is what happens when they need to fill quota just for the sake of it. Ignore the noise, the tantrums and drama, just use your free time to either have your own gig, build business, improve skills and one day leave the unskilled people behind.
  • 2
    Rare day indeed that I agree with @jassole but he's right enough. If you're right and your boss is discriminating and taking you for a mug, leave or stick it out until you are able to leave. Probably nothing you can do to redress it, so treat it as a monthly cash injection whilst you figure out what you want to do instead. A victim mentality, however justified, will never do you any favours.
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    @UnicornPoo ๐Ÿ‘
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    @UnicornPoo why is getting a job because you're a woman bad? because people think you don't deserve it?
    have you heard of the amazon hiring algorithm they made in the past and had to take down because it only chose men as potential candidates? point is yes sometimes women are simply hired to fill the gender ratio quota but how is that a bad thing?? you literally get a free pass for being a woman! men will never have that kind of ability except if they had something extra like speaking a foreign language.

    Btw I actually got promoted (the only man on my team who did); however I had to take a test and get the highest grade between all team mates to get it, while the females didn't, that's the kind of bias I am talking about. If women are seen as dumber/less competent then how come they get a free pass while I have to work my ass off to reach that same level? shouldn't they have a harder time than me? that's the kind of inequality I am talking about.
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    Women get hired just to prop up the diversity stats, then wonder why they aren't taken seriously. How about connecting the dots?

    That quota shit is actually harmful for the competent women who have already been in and belong into tech. Then again, there was no outcry from this dev fraction because they miscalculated that the quota shit would only harm men so that they didn't care when they should have.

    Btw., that will continue with black people for whom the bar is lowered with degrees. The inevitable result will be that degrees of black people won't be taken seriously, which harms those black people who are actually good students. Same story, no outcry from them.
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    I'm just happy that my company doesn't do any of that diversity shit, which is why folks are assumed to belong there, regardless of sex and race.

    We're also aware that we're somewhat freaky and wouldn't thrive in a "polished" corp, which is why we give each other some leeway at being strange: I accept that you're somewhat off as long as you accept that I'm off myself.

    I'm better than you at this one, you're better than me at that one, so let's align our strengths and get shit done because we don't have time for pointless bickering anyway.
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    @Fast-Nop Finally! someone actually gets it!
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    https://twitter.com/Mounia_NL/...

    LOL. This is what I am talking about. Woman who are principled and skilled don't want themselves to be labelled as hired just for sake of diversity. They want to stand out themselves from this mob. Which is why I post what I mostly post about.
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    @UnicornPoo as I mentioned I did get promoted, just read my last comment. And yes I agree that the "diversity quota" is a bunch of BS. It's extremely unfair that women and minorities get special treatments in order to "diversify the company portfolio" sadly this is one of the cons you have to deal with while working in a big multinational company.

    It also highly depends on the boss, it's true that at least in tech this doesn't happen very often but the level of bias I have seen by this man (yes my boss is actually a man believe or not) in a freaking third world country like mine is just disguisting. The truth is there many cucks like this here, a friend of mine works in a big bank and all the females get bigger and faster promotions just not turn the workplace into a "sausage fest" LOL.

    Yet the men do most of the heavy lifting but keep their mouths shut because they have mouths to feed, it's terrible.
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    Fuck women. Fuck men. Cant work together? Total gender separation in the work place. Stop generalizing.

    Fuck diversity of people. Fuck homogenity. Fuck inclusion. Fuck exclusion. Dont tell me how to run my business. Have something to say? Go start your own shit. Nobody asked for your opinion and I dont care.

    Hi OP. Your feelings are valid. If you feel bad management is on the rise, talk to someone in management about it. Its not "women" fault. Best find a different place to work where your talent is appreciated
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