Wayland is pain.

Did your mom name you Wayland?

If Wayland doesn't put on the lotion, Wayland gets the hose.

I use 4k predominately on my Linux device, gdm with Wayland is the only way I can get it to work.

Scaling is still a piece of shit. Mostly because the apps don't use Wayland functions. Most of the real problem apps are entirely dependant on community development and/or surrounded by low tech communities (think embedded development).

And before anyone asks, 4k displays allow me to purchase cheaper and larger screens with more screen real estate. I have an 80in 4k TV that can give me four 20in screens I can use for log tailing, cli, and other testing software. The TV cost me $500 while four 20s would have cost me $1200.

Couple that with multi-desktop and it's a great way to stay organized on multiple projects.

@sariel Small screen prices are complete bullshit.

@Demolishun I completely agree. The argument used to be, "we can't mass produce them so they'll be more expensive"

Now that there's just a handful of factories making them in every size you can imagine, there's no excuse why you need to pay more than $125 for a monitor.

What's wrong with wayland? Genuinly asking. I was under the impression It's supposed to be a good modern replacement for X11 but never got around to get to know it closer.

@Hazarth https://gist.github.com/probonopd/...

This should summarize most of the problems.

@sariel an 80in screen is the same as four 40in screens though. I'm curious how far away do you need to sit from it and if you even have a desk.

@electrineer it's about a meter and a half away from my eyes.

I'm very near sighted.

And your math is better than mine, it is four 40in monitors.

@Hazarth Wrong is a bad choice of words.

Wayland was a complete new approach to graphics and graphic design.

It _had_ to break with everything as Xorg was - from whatever perspective - an utter broken pile of mess.

Look eg. at Planet FDO (Planet Free desktop) for the blogs of various authors.

And seeing the GitHub entry from @sariel I'd rather ask what's wrong with humanity in general...

You could pick any major open source project from kernel to wayland to desktop environments to .... .

Lack of adaption, man power, funding, communication / community issues, lack of "proper social behaviour" are the general issues. Many authors have covered this with various perspectives - but in general, every FOSS project suffers more or less from it.

Maintenance and keeping projects alive is already exceeding the capabilities of many project communities, adaptation and larger rewrites / refactoring impossible unless explicitly funded.

Without the investment of large companies, many FOSS projects would have been dead already.

Few glue together what everyone uses - in a nutshell.