Imagine your manager saying to you: "I've reviewed your salary and I think we are paying you too little, so I would like us to negotiate your raise." - and then proposing a larger sum than you were expecting.

PS: actually happened around two months ago.

Nice

I want to smoke what you are smoking... or I want to work where you are working.

This happened to me about 8 months ago.

Luckily I've gotten all my raises at my current company this way.

I think it's actually in the employer's best interest to play the game very transparently from their side.

It's much less awkward for THEM to just TELL where things are going and what to expect, than it is for YOU to ASK "hey boss, more moneys pls? no? never? maybe? next year?"

If you are ambiguous about salary negotiations as an employer, employees will feel even more awkward and just leave for better offers elsewhere, even if there might have been some room for a raise.

@bittersweet "moar moneyz please" 🤣🤣🤣

I don't get this. How are employers offering raises without you even asking?
This contradicts everything I have learnt.
What have I learnt?

0. Get an offer to bring to salary negotiations.
1. Ask for a raise. Invite a negotiation if not already scheduled.
2. They either agree or negotiate a lower raise; do whatever seems right, accept their offering like a merciful God or kick their butts.

@prodigy214 what are you smoking?

@anux

There's also a psychological effect: If you have a €45k/y employee in a €60k/y position, and proactively propose a €100/m raise twice a year it will take about 6 years for their salary to catch up with market value.

You have a below-market-value employee for 6 years, and substantially decrease the chance of the employee leaving, because no one starts looking for a new job right after a raise.

...and then I wake up from my dream.

@bittersweet ah!
I didn't see through that at all.
I have received these kind of raises too. At a previous company everyone would get yearly 10% hike at least. But the catch was that everyone started at really low wages so I never really thought much of it.

I hear that's actually fairly common, because spontaneous reviews like thiis are very rare in most places the manager might decide to make the sum future-proof.

I'm getting a raise (due to the collective agreement, not even my merits) of whooping 40€/month. That's about 1% increase in pay.

I've never actually had a proper raise. It must be a nice feeling. :o