Recently started using Arch after a year of distro hopping starting from Ubuntu, to Fedora, to Mint, to Opensuse. I have never been as satisfied with a distro as I have with Arch. I have learnt so much from just fiddling and reading through the archwiki.

Once you go Arch you don't go back.

Arch was my last distro, fucked up my partition and I had to get back ASAP, installed Ubuntu and I really don't have the 'energy' to switch again, would like Arch again, I don't like Unity, I feel like Ubuntu is "too packed up", should have installed Lubuntu or something.

@dotdeb well, you in luck. Ubuntu is changing back to Gnome next year I believe

@troopy712139 yep, it is, by that time I should be using Arch or something... Fuck it, tomorrow I will install Arch.

I used arch for some years but I now I need something that just works, I am now using Ubuntu Gnome

Arch way is the Linux way!

@troopy712139 Ubuntu never stopped using Gnome

Archer here. It's totally true: once you go arch, you can't go back.

One big plus, mostly understimated, I love over all the others is the "rolling release" concept.

I've been hesitating over making the jump to Linux but when I do should I go Debian or Arch for a first time user?

@core probably neither :) Debian is boring, Arch is hard. I'd say Ubuntu, Mint or Deepin, something like that

Well I was all set up to Install Arch last weekend. Downloaded the iso created bootable usb drive and then booted my laptop from the usb and fuck no GUI to use during installation?????!!! So I just decided to stick to Ubuntu gnome. I have seen screenshots of Arch it looks nice but the black tty screen scares the hell out me.

@Geforce it's a feature xD
No, seriously, it has one of the best documented and straightforward setups I have ever seen, just carefully follow the official wiki and you will complete it.

@UgoRaffaele I will give it a try on VMware first. I fear messing with my windows partitions.

@Geforce sure, testing it in a VM is the best way to learn! Beware, if you have an EFI setup you should be extra careful.

@core manjaro is simplified arch

@UgoRaffaele yeah I am actually still learning how to dual boot with EFI. I thought to myself "nah screw it don't wanna break something now" so I left it

@moars42 for real? I am actually very curious about Manjaro. I will give it a try

@troopy712139 manjaro is based on arch but targets newcomers
It has its own packagesources but you can still install software from the aur and anything on the archwiki applies to manjaro too
I really like it

@moars42 so basically you can use arch wiki for Manjaro too?

@troopy712139 yes

@moars42 what about Gentoo?

@troopy712139 never used it, so I can't really say something

Good stuff...And you have to try Solus. It is an amazing distro.
https://solus-project.com

@unjx The Budgie desktop though written from scratch looks like heavily configured GNOME.

Arch = for people with way much time and not using Linux in production

@Linux lol somehow it feels like you know me. I actually have a lot of time lately, just graduated and waiting to do my conscription... *Sigh*

@Linux talking about productivity, I have been using the same arch install on my laptop since 2014 :p

@core Arch is too complicated for a newcomer. Ubuntu is fine but is also pretty heavy and canonic.
Mint is very nice and easy.
Also I think Centos is the most solid while fast full of functions distro.

@theothergod yep, Budgie does leverage a lot of GTK tech. But starting with version 11 the team is going with QT.

Good blog post here about the deGNOMEing of Budgie and the choosing of QT.

https://budgie-desktop.org/2017/01/...

@UgoRaffaele
Not production, production :)

@Linux productivity*?

@troopy712139
Hahahaha, yes!

@Geforce if you feel like no GUI is too intimidating then you can use ArchAnywhere, its basically a script that guides you through the whole installation.

@Linux sorry, I probably misunderstood.
Let me explain: what I meant is that I don't have to waste time on dist-upgrades or occasionally some faulty poorly-tested packages and their consequences, unlike Ubuntu, since 2014. Hence, my productivity is high because I don't have to worry about those things and I can concentrate on developing.

@UgoRaffaele
Well, managing servers is not a problem for me, I have the right tools to manage hundreds at the same time.

It is my job to manage servers, and not to develop :)

@Linux Yeah, I read your previous comment too fast, so I misunderstood.

On a server I would not use arch, too. I prefer other distros, like Debian or CentOS.

@UgoRaffaele
But I messed up my spelling too.

Actually, I have not found a really good desktop distro yet. I primary run bunsenlabs thou

@Linux ah, openbox <3 I use it, too.

@UgoRaffaele
The only good DE 😘

@Linux I also tried Xmonad and fell in love with the concept behind it.
Sometimes it's strictly necessary: you sure can understand me.

@UgoRaffaele hmmm I use i3-gaps on my Arch instead of these other DE

@UgoRaffaele
I will check it out! Thanks for the tip!