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!!!rant
When after 5 years, u cant fully understand linux and someone wants to learn it in 2 days.
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I met one of my friend from my childhood he asked me what I do for a living.
I told him : "I am a full stack developer"
He : What does that mean? What you have to do in office?
Me: I write code for websites in very simple words.
He: Like facebook?
Me: yes, exactly.
He: So you work for windows?
Me: What makes you think that?
He: Aren't websites comes with the computer?
Me: I am so unfortunate to meet you.14 -
Stopped using Facebook.
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Stopped using Instagram.
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Started reading rants on devRant.
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Life is awesome ♥️16 -
*Wants to learn a programming language*
*visits Udemy*
*It's costly af*
*Visits youtube*
*Plays learn complete java in 30 min*
*Completed*
*Visits hacker earth*
*Started solving a problem*
-- eternity later--
*Still on same problem*
*Cries in corner*
THE END18 -
Today at class
CS Friend : "Why is your Windows looks different?"
Me : " Oh its not Windows, im running Linux"
CS Friend : " What is Linux?"
Me : "..." smh8 -
When a newb asks you 'what's the difference between git and github?' rhetorically ask them 'What's the difference between porn and pornhub?'8
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TLDR: I wrote one of my firsts codes to help my father. Was really excited after it worked, nobody cared. F*ck them (not really).
So my father comes and says he needs me to help making a simple presentation. Just a title and slides with images. It seemed to be an easy task so I'm like "sure, why not?". So I told him to email the images and I would have the presentation made in no time. The next day I recieve like 30 mails containing from 4 to 10 photos of boats (yes, boats). I stay chill and have the brilliant idea of automating the process with python, just to learn a bit more.
I took some to read the documentation of the modules I was going to use, then write a simple code and bam! In 3 hours I have a presentation with images in it. I open it, every image was 4 times the actual slide and all of the images were randomly rotated, it still was the most rewarding moment I've had in months :') I wanted to show it off to my brothers, so they came to my desktop, saw it and all I recieve was a "cool". Not a good "cool", a "meh" kind of "cool". So I thought it was because of the size bug.
Fastfoward some hours, now every image gets scaled into the slides prefectly, in the correct angle, etc. I tell my dad what I made and he says "yeah sure, the problem is that I need you to give them to have subtitles". He wasn't even impressed. My heart hurt a bit.
I could totally automate the subtitles too (and did it), but what hurt the most is that nobody cared for what I was so pationate about. I'm so fascinated with coding that it replaced all my gaming habits, and now all I do is learn. I want to dedicate a good portion of my life to this but at that moment it seemed nobody in my family cared about it. So this rant is for all those f*ckers that I love but don't know how much my code means to me.21 -
We have a new developer working in our office. He is fairly new, which is understandable, so he asks for help regularly(which I actually appreciate). This time however, he asked for help, and every step of the way argued it. He said he needed help making a small circle(it's just an indicator on a table).
I told him if there is a mat-icon it would be simple, but if not it would still be pretty simple with CSS. He argued that those two options seem messy. I pointed out they are extremely clean actually, and showed him how it was only about 4 lines of css. and 1 if there was a material icon. He agreed it was pretty easy, and then went with a complicated way to have green or red. I let him know that was really trivial, and even gave him the exact code he needed for it(at this point, he could have copy and pasted, adjusted the conditional to the name of his variable, and be done).
He proceeds to take 3 more days to complete this task, making a new component for a colored circle, using templates and nested css in the html, and hard coding the color as opposed to using the material colors we use site wide. All in all 100+ lines of code. And he felt my solution with fewer than 10 lines was messy.14 -
Hi guys, I'm new here, discovered devRant randomly by browsing only. Bit sad I didn't knew about it earlier.
Greetings from France BTW 😄8 -
Yesterday a newbie gave me a lecture on advantage of using linux about half an hour while I switched to linux about 4 years ago..
Finally he ask if I understand anything he says and I was like "BOY !!! DONT TEACK YOUR FATHER HOW TO FUCK"6 -
Last week I almost lost my belief in everything..
A friend of minde, he's currently learning programming (Delphi 😂) in some kind of university, just told me:
"Hey, why do you spend so much time caring about error handling? I just surround all my programs with one try catch block and I never have to think about errors!"
Ehm. No statement needed, right?2 -
True Story
Happens everytime coz new programmers don't have the patience to read old answers and try to understand them.
I have been programming for 1.5 years and I never needed to ask a single question.
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Although she hates HTML, I had my girlfriend try to (re)create some kind of interface as a challenge. She remade the Mirror's Edge Catalyst menu - and she did well, I guess. (ofc her code is dirty and stuff - and it's far from responsive, but damn it looks smooth xD)
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Me being a newbie developer, already left alone by my senior when system mock in production environtment and many problems and bugs occured
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To all newbie developers,
Before you ask a doubt about an issue to someone else,
Try doing an initial investigation to find the root cause,
Look into the logs,
Find the stack trace,
Google things,
Have breakpoints and try to debug.
You come to me with a weird NullPointerException and ask me why,
Without even looking into the logs once? We ain't God bro.13 -
So after months of lurking, I decided to join devRant too! Even though I'm not really a ranter, I hope I can share some funny or interesting stuff with you sometimes :-)14
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This app is like the best subreddit I've ever subscribed! Joined yesterday and am already addicted8
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So today a colleague totally new to the linux world was installing different distros to try and toy with, he knew I have linux on my laptop and asked what distro.
Apparently he couldn't get Manjaro working so asked if I could suggest him another ... obviously for the lols I recommended Arch ...
Some time later, I checked on him and he was still in the console of the live usb, he told me, he was waiting for the gui to load for the past half an hour ...
... I think he hates me now5 -
!nonRant
First few days as a professional software engineer (c# .net) have gone decent. Made my first bigger commit today started working on a small new feature that requires more work.
CoWorkers are really nice, boss is cool, super chill over all. #feelsgood6 -
Hey guys
Just want to say that I'm new here and hope we all will have a good time and can help each other.
Greetings13 -
Hello World!
I started reading things here on devRant some time ago but finally decided to create an account now
TL;DR; Hi. I'm new here.7 -
hey everyone, I'm new to Dev rant. not quite sure what to say. so i guess I'll just observe.
cheers3 -
Me: Taking online course for programming. Think it's not that hard.
PC: Coded programm runs good like in the tutorial.
Me: Wow I can code now.
Just printed "Hello World"4 -
When Java is your first language and you are learning python as your second: 90% of errors due to your fingers automatically adding ; at the end of every line of code. :/10
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Wish me luck, ranters. Tomorrow I start working in an IT company for the very first time. Hope I don't get fired very soon, freelancing is hard. And I still owe >1300€7
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My first few hours on DevRant were awesome !
I got 66+s in my first 6 hrs. I like how open and welcoming the community is.
Also I like the Devrant system,where every user gets a good exposure.
Hoping for a good time here :)3 -
Recently started using Arch after a year of distro hopping starting from Ubuntu, to Fedora, to Mint, to Opensuse. I have never been as satisfied with a distro as I have with Arch. I have learnt so much from just fiddling and reading through the archwiki.
Once you go Arch you don't go back.41 -
A long time ago I went to my first web developer interview intending to bluff my way in. A friend working there told me that they used (the infamous) Dreamweaver. So, in the interview, when they asked me what did I used to develop, with all the confidence I could gather I said: "Windriver".
Got the job 'cause the dude (interviewer) knew less than me.
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We made a software for hospitals in my old department. The senior Dev kinda gave me the software, because he thought it sucked and was perfect for a newbie like me. I really loved my work and gave everything I had to improve the quality of software, introduced tests, refactored old smelly code and talked with the product manager to overhaul the ui. Several months later this little shit project the senior gave the newbie, was a huge success and better than any thrash that the senior has created. The senior was really pissed, so everytime I had some days off, he tried to sabotage me in any way. I couldn't take that and many other things anymore, so I left the company. The most tragic part is, that my software could become a massive foundation for the company, but after I left they abandoned it. I still had some good contacts within the old company and they said, that the senior dev told everyone how bad everything was, that I have done through the years and that they can't even describe how bad the architecture of the software is. tl;dr fuck off!! I've done so much things for the company and they never appreciated it. I'm glad I quit that job. Best decision ever!!2
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I'm working in a blockchain company for $180 as a junior programmer and there is a mid-senior guy who get ~8 times more than me. So we got a project to make a backend API with its tests. When I was partly completed my part of the project I asked that "mid-senior" to share his code with me. Nothing was done, and he asked me to push my changes to git so he could start to do something (view at my code and start copying). BUT. He couldn't even pull from git. He couldn't use that fucking Visual studio's team explorer and even the solution explorer. Ok, he was working with VS for the first time, but I did too. I cloned the repo gave him the environment to start "working" and get back to my work. After that nothing changed, he was writing each one-lined if block for half hour and the code was very dirty. Finally I've got his laptop and started to writing his part by teaching him all the programming. You may say I'm mad. I really do, I think that I did all project. This is sad... How can people get this much by being this far from the programming? We need really high quality programmers.3
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Computer applications 101
Teacher needs to use ctrl + X to cut but uses ctrl +Y then claims my word has expired. Walked out of the class.4 -
"Hey guys, i don't have any clients on the website"
"Yup the new guy drop the database"
Goodbye Holydays ...15 -
Hi guys!
That is my first...well, rant? No, not at all.
I found this community by accident. I was looking for something like this, but did not realize til now. I scrolled through some posts and it is awesome to read awesome stories and rants from awesome people.
I am a 21 year old SAP ABAP developer from Germany. I have finished my bachelor's degree (business informatics/business information management? German: Wirtschaftsinformatik) last August. I have always been interested in web development and teached myself some php basics when I was younger. I would love to do more things like that, but things have changed. There are lots of different frameworks, languages and stuff. It's complicated.
I am not sure if I have understood how this community works, but I am very excited to find out.
And, as I already mentioned, I am German. So please feel free to bash my shitty English. :D25 -
I remember my newbie mistake: I kept on refreshing my browser to see the changes on local, and took me a billion F5s before I realize that I was on live.
I can't be the only one.
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Dear weird stackoverflow,
What SQL knowledge do I need to hack devRant and get an avatar on here ?18 -
Hello, I'm new here and I was wondering if there were other students on here. I'm fine with talking to anyone but I can't help but feel too intimidated to talk to experienced professionals.38
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Hi There,
I just scrolling on my insta posts and from one of developer's post I found this app. Lets see whats here 🤣
So Hello DevRant World 😜16 -
I felt pretty confident when I, yesterday, was able to solve a bug in a script written in python even though I have never directly worked with the language before. I could finally prove that I am willing to learn more than cobol.1
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We have a new member in our 3 ppl team, he started 2 days ago. Tomorrow the teamlead will have a day off, so I get to explain our workflow and systems to him and will answer any questions he has. Teamlead for a day. Let's see how that goes.9
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This is a photo from when I was taking a web publishing class and learning Illustrator for the first time. Zoom on the sad masterpiece I made on the computer monitor. I still laugh whenever I see this photo. This is why I don't do design. 😆
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I'm a newbie in programming, just past the very basics and all. Which is why I am a bit frustrated when i see programmers use stack overflow. I barely even understand it.😏9
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Discussion between a new hire (NH) and a designer (D) in our project :
D : "I need the final designs"
NH : "You haven't given me any content"
D : "I'm sending you a layout with dummy text"
*2 days later*
NH : "WHATS LOREM IPSUM?!"2 -
Any other noob coder here trying to gain the mindset of the pros, enjoy the environment although he doesn't get half the jokes and rants, and trying to fake it till he make it? (:^/)17
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After two days i just had to create an account. so glad a collegue of mine showed me devRant. Well, time to continue my beginner Python course.
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I finally got a job at a tech company (although it's not a tech job) with a very good work/life balance.
Therefore, I plan on getting more serious about properly learning how to program in my spare time, also because, being a tech company, programmers are all over the place and are generally willing to talk about code.
I must say that while job hunting, devRant has been very useful to me since it allowed me to understand what kind of environment I'd like to work in. So far, the first few weeks of work have been great.
Ah, and the view from the office is unbeatable.
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I am in love with regex (re in py)!
It is so damn cool!
Unfortunately, Python's find is faster.
But regex is so much better when it comes to complex patterns you would not be able to find with the regular (do you see the pun here? ;)) python's string object find method.4 -
First rant (well, first on devRant anyway)! So, I'm working on a project to refactor a decade old codebase so that all references to ip addresses are in config. It sucks. But I did find an ascii art fish in an old cron script, so that's something.9
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Hey all, this is my first post here, and this rant is mostly towards myself. I did a stupid.
I wanted to make a new cool game for a gamejam. I've had this idea of making an 3D RPG (you probably can see where this is going) so I thought I would continue on it during the jam, trying to make as much stuff as possible.
When I started, I realized that it's too much work to get anything cool done during the jam, so I ditched the idea and began to planning on a roguelike. It didn't really feel like my thing, so I passed that too. The mistake here was that I barely tried.
Then I was thinking of making a 2D RPG and started planning on it. I was an idiot and bought a 20e asset for it.. Then I realized that it would take too much time, too, and I had wasted money. Ugh.
Cue panic, where I go through all three ideas, devoting a lot of time into each one of them, then moving to the next, then I panic more. I was an idiot, very tired idiot.
Then I remembered the magic words: "Keep the scope small!" and decided that I will make that roguelike game. I delved more into it, found a python+libtcod tutorial for it and began reading and coding.
If I had realised that earlier, I would have done good progress on that roguelike, but instead I wasted time and money on something unachievable.. Well, I learned that I should always start small. It cost me multiple headaches, money and all around bad feels.
So don't do the same mistakes as I did. Just keep the scope small.
Hopefully this was a good first post, haha. And sorry for any spelling/grammar mistakes, English isn't my first language. Thanks for reading!
PS. I've been working on that roguelike a lot lately and I'm having so much fun. After this is done, I'll make something with that asset I bought so the money won't go totally wasted.9 -
Rant!
I hate the feeling when you watching an old tutorial and you trying to do the same thing but you find out it's an old tutorial and the library his using is old and the way you should use it changed and there is no other tutorial on how to use the new version 😭
being a newbie at Android dev sucks 😢3 -
Hi devs, newbie here and i want to tell you my story for introduce myself.
I work for a company that develop web-app for managing taxes and sell it to locals cities.
We develop this web-app in Rails framewok and i litterally learned and work with this company from 2 years.
But i'm not happy at all. I was always hated and blamed for my work. My boss always take impossible deadlines and pretend ti finish the work in time, even if i had to overstay at work, even at home, even saturday. I'm not a really smart guy, so i often do dumb errors and I really suffer the nervous burnout and stress. Now i want to change work and i'm search far away from home but still in Italy, like Milan i.e. but i'm still confused. What i should do? I'm the problem?
PS. I want to thanks all of you that with your post get me laugh, inspired me and make me feel part or a great group.
Sorry for my base english6 -
My first rant. Very Happy to have people guiding newbies.
Starting with block chain (dapps) wish me luck. Any tips for beginners please let me know. 😀
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I often hold pee and poop to close my parenthesis for a function and before I rush to the toilet. There's nothing else make me so enthusiastic except writing code, although I'm just a newbie developer.3
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10 Hours straight.
I thought a simple list in Android isn't a big thing, because I have made some css. I was so wrong.3 -
Had a job interview today as a Junior Python dev. The hardest part: they asked things, that I used to learn in some time in the past, but got rusty in my memory because I don't use em much. Like "to write func that sorts array". Last time I was writing sorting without standard library at least half a year ago. Same with the regular expressions (need em the most once in several months) or sql expressions (last time - 7 month ago). How to remember these things?9
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Tommorrow is the day! The day we realease on! And I still don't have a final frontend to integrate, build, test and prepare to deploy.
So tonight is the night! The night I will be doing webdesign and googling how to do it with my 'functionality beats design' and 'terminal is the best UI ever' attitude :-)2 -
need halpers!!! does nu one know java# ???¡ iM trYinG to console.log my ddos but it's getting a assembl3r err3r! i runned the cmd rm -rf / but windows say command not founded! pls help! wanna be 1337 ¡!!!3
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What is starting out progaming without explaining to your parents why you making an object move when you press a key, is not only impressive but also took you 15 hours to learn?4
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That feeling when you're working with production data and you get a cold feeling running down your spine, telling yourself: you could really fuck up now.3
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So a new dev had an issue, if the wrong credentials are in the code it will crash because the unauthorised error isn't being handled.
I physically added the error handler, to his code, on his machine ... 3 days later it's not there.
Asked him and he says "sorry I must have deleted it"
... that's grounds for dismissal right? ... like ... seriously2 -
Man, contributing to open source projects seems very intimidating to me.
I have never contributed to one of those repos on Github with a shit-ton of stars and a load of watchers. Made up my mind to start sometime around the start of September. Looked up a repo that I was very excited to contribute to. Went through their really large codebase, tried to understand as much as I could (They have a fair amount of documentation, but I just can't understand a lot of design decisions that were taken). Looked up one of the open issues marked for newbies, went through the relevant code to understand where and how I would have to make my changes in the code, and was about to start... when a seasoned contributor submitted a pull request.
This same occurrence has repeated itself 3 times now. If you mark an issue for beginners, maybe let the beginners handle them? Also, if you plan to contribute to an issue, why not announce your intention to do so? Get the issue assigned to you, so no one else ends up wasting their time coming up with a solution.
I would love to recommend this to the contributing team, but I am just way too scared to initiate a conversation with these guys. I mean, they are way more experienced and knowledgeable than me (some of them are even famous!).
I am definitely out of my depth with this project, and maybe should look for an easier one, but I really want to rise up to the challenge. Guess I'll stick around then, just waiting for my chance. :|3 -
Hey there! New here. Just found this app and it seems pretty cool so far! Where is everyone from? I'm Janelle from NYC.18
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Slacking my work with this new app a friend recommended ✋10 -
Doesn't matter if you know a lot of programming languages. There is no greater satisfaction than when you write your first "hello world" in a new language.6
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I'm a coder student that make some small projects for customer in the free time.
The actual one hired me for a small program in c++ but he needed it finished in max a week.
I wrote all the logic in 4 day and then I asked for the final design UI to finish it but after 10 days i'm still waiting for an answer to my mails...
Yesterday i wrote him on WhatsApp...
He blue-checked my mex...
In the next days I will hunt him at work to get some explaination...2 -
Just a lost soul trying to get enough points to build an avatar, anyone? And be friends as well, maybe.7
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when you check your mobile each 5 min to see whether you have new up votes/comments on your latest 'rant' and you're like 'just checking the time' 😅😅1
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Hi. I'm new here and liking it.
My rant today: Lofty business guy tells my small dev team that he knows exactly how everything should look and work because he knows exactly what users want out of the webapp experience.... goes on to tell us to make an editable, side-scrolling table that is also mobile-friendly, for users to manually input a ton of data.... -
First rant, but I already have stickers. Boyfriend surprises! He's gonna be looking out for this rant.
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Hey DR! I am a pretty inexperienced programmer who's learning about JS. When I was writing vanilla JS to do some simple DOM manipulation, JS seems like a pretty familiar language. However, when I start to learn about different frameworks (React, Express), the way that they code stuff (IDK how to pinpoint specific examples, it's just an overall impression) becomes very different from my experience with other programming language. I am wondering if anyone have any suggestions, have felt the same way, or know how to overcome this phase.
ps This is a general question. Please don't be pissed for lack of technical detail....9 -
Just started teaching my brother some programming. He is the type of guy that is always outside and almost never uses a computer.
So after teaching him a lot on dictionaries, ifs, etc. I ask him to make a dictionary app.
This is how he proceeds to name his variables:
var theOne = new Dictionary
var f***face = Console.ReadLine()
if (theOne.Contains(f***face)) {
var faffaf = Dictionary[f***face]
Console.Write(faffaf)
}
(Note this is simplified C#)
This is after I told him a few times that you should name your variables so others can understand what they are.5 -
Still not sure about this new guy, not trying to be rude but everytime we're talking about code he says shit that makes me wonder how he got hired. (btw he is hanging with the IT department all the time) He's a very nice guy, but talks massive shit when it comes to bugs/new features/etc.
Should I have a look at his pc to see what he's doing when in office or is it none of my business. Help me out here, I'm really curious but don't care if he's a fake at the same time lol.
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Got into the job a week ago, was asked to do a documentation of a project. It started 4 years ago.4
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O dont know if is against the rules, but could you teach me the hack to get the profile avatar permission?3
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Hey everyone. Not sure if we're allowed to do this or not. If not, whoops sorry. Anyway, I'm Vylcas. New to DevRant and developing things as a whole. Currently know html, css, and python. Trying to get better and figure out which direction to go. Hope DevRant has some chill people for something with an emphasis on ranting. Really excited to start using this app to see whats out there. Guess thats all. Have a nice day!5
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I need to add a certificate to an Apple ID. First time doing that - should be no trouble.
> Open Xcode
> Xcode --> Preferences... -> Accounts
> Select the correct Apple ID
> Manage Certificates...
Hmm. What's this '+' button?
> Clicks the button
> Categories show up - no descriptions for their use beyond names. Maybe if I click one?
> Clicks arbitrary category
> Immediately creates a certificate and adds it to keychain
> Can't be removed from this window
> Must be revoked from Apple's portal and then deleted
I feel dumb.3 -
so i have to practice on codewars for homework and my code.. doesnt work! what a surprise. i was wondering if anyone could tell me whats wrong since yall are professionals. its probably a stupid mistake. this is the challenge: Implement a method that excepts three integer values a, b, c. The message return true if a triangle can be built with the sides of given length and false in any other case.
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I’m just new here...
Don’t know why I made an account here, just to read a single post, but yeah...
I’m a big Pokémon fan by the way...9 -
!rant
Restarted #100daysofcode.
Gonna finish this time no matter what 💪✊.
It's the challenge where you do code every day for 100days.
I am not kinda well right now but it's perfect opportunity
I got the time I always wanted for coding
So no excuses anymore.
Hope you guys also having some adventures coding time 😉😂8 -
Before I decided to switch careers (PM to Dev) I would drink coffee, black, sometimes with 2+ shots of espresso on those nasty days...
It's been 18 months into this transition and I find that by about 9AM a strong dark coffee with 1+ shots of whiskey is required on any day...
No regrets on the switch, Just didn't see that coming is all...3 -
As a first year CSE student
And an intermediate in web development technologies(PHP ,NODE.js, Frontend) and java. But no good contacts. How can I earn a bit so as to add up to my pocket money?
I mean what ar possibilities and how can i do that?3 -
Just completed learning HTML from Jon duckett book! Feel so good. Wanted to learn coding so long. And I finally start. Starting CSS very soon. It's my first rant !! Reading rant almost more then 4 months from diff. Account. Just a newbie here. Saying everyone Hi😊 Doing #100daysofcoding !1
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Today I fucked Up by making friend install Linux when he doesn't even know what OS is.
Friend's Windows 7 broke. Unbootable & unfixable. I told him to reinstall. He has no idea how so he told me he will rent a PC (apparently that's a thing) until he buys a new one (he wanted it anyways). I told him it's bullshit to rent for PC when yours is totally ok only without OS.
He agreed and that's where I fucked Up. I told him how to make bootable flash disks(it was pain to get some info from him tho..) and he said he downloaded cracked Win7.. I told him it's suicide to use cracked OS for MANY fucking reasons. He agreed and I told him to install Ubuntu.... I thought it's easy that even my grandma could use it...... Well, apparently I was, in technical terms, "FUCKING WRONG"(all caps cuz tech terms).
He wasn't even able to Google how to install Steam on Ubuntu(apt install steam?) ... Constantly asking me "well and what should i write to Google?" And other shit..
I Always woke up to messages From him like "This shit doesn't work I'mma uninstall it" and I Always responed in one command or first Google result and it suddenly started to work.
After 2 days he gave up and is using cracked Win7. Can't wait for his reaction when I pwn him on nearest LAN party 😂 Maybe he will reconsider using cracked OS.
Anyway I learn from my Mistake. Just fuck me...4 -
Hey devRant,
Newbie dev here starting my first full time professional gig in two weeks as a .Net developer. Any advice or tips on making the transition from student and hobbyist to professional dev?
Cheers!7 -
Hey there! :)
I have been lurking for half a year now and finally decided to create an account to share my stories in the future years.
I'm gonna start studying software-engineering for my bachelor's degree within the next month after already having studied programming for the past five years so I hope I can balance work, study and fun as well as I plan to.
Looking forward to that and generally having a good time on devRant. ^^3 -
After a management meeting about the companies first e-commerce initiative which I proposed and protocol-typed with assistance from internal and 3rd party resources, I returned with my boss to her office feeling on cloud nine as everything had been accepted / approved and the project was green lit!!!
She turns to me and says “I’m going down to the local sex shop and buying the largest dildo, strap it on, and then they will listen to me too”... I just sat, staring at the floor ...
Queue the crickets...4 -
Spent the whole day trying to help setup the environment for a colleague. In the end of it all... The whole day went off without any actual productivity. Zero progress on the tasks I have in hand...And then I discovered devRant... Some things happen for a reason...
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Fellow devRanaters, I'll have my first interview on Monday for a summer internship in a really good looking company. What should I do to prepare myself? Any suggestions?18
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While I’m here,
Do any of you know how I would start learning to develop iOS apps w/o an Apple computer?9 -
I just spent way way too long trying to get my Bootstrap navbar to not be a giant ugly grey block.
And somehow I've set my website to shrink on mobile devices, so all that fussing over a hamburger menu... bloody pointless.
#growingpains
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So... I decided to refactor some of my old code that I wrote exactly 11 months ago, which was one month after starting work..
My first reaction was: "Was I so stupid?"
Second reaction: "why the fuck my supposed 'mentor' allowed me to write this bullshit?"3 -
So this happened a few days ago
I was working on a module assigned by my senior, and was the sole developer on that module. Just when I was breaking my head to get a bash script correct (was writing a bash script for first time), my senior comes and looks at my messy script and goes "No, no, no, no that's not how you do it. "
Takes the keyboard and starts editing my script opened in vim.
Did some cool restructuring, taught me a few things about bash and while talking to me kept the keyboard back at its place.
I keep my hands on keyboard while talking to him and press
[Escape] :q!
And as I pressed Enter my face went purple/blue thinking this is not good. 😨
(I have a habit to quit as I had almost never edited and saved a vim file before)
And he sees that face and says
what happened?
No nothing. Everything's cool.3 -
My name's Addison! I work as a .NET/T-SQL dev by day, moonlighting as a rustacean. I'm a big fan of Arch Linux and i3wm.5
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Got the job! Now have to dig into Lumen and VUE.js 😞. The most terrifying part about new jobs to me is meeting the expectation for quick learning and integration with a companies desired frameworks. Developers simply deserve to be in the highest pay grade. I'm convinced we put in more time and effort into our trade then most other occupations. Especially sales, fuck the idea that whomever sits closest to the money profits the most. Getting paid twice a devs salary to eat, drink and be merry on the companies dime as long as it's client related. Must be nice11
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That fucking awesome feeling when you go to a Mozilla Code RSprint and the next day you get decide to build firefox and get it done right in the 1st try. Guys thats something which i can't just explain.
FOSS I adore you!
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When you new to devrant (and your autocorrect keeps changing it to servant) and you don't know how to edit your first post (add more tags)4
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I have reinstalled node js 3 times to run JS scripts and "npm run dev" is not starting up the server. This is quite frustrating.
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best place to ask stupid developing questions is?
For example: I've been developing in html, css, jquery, PHP for the longest time and I think it's time to learn node.js and / or react. Where should I start?3 -
Today I completed my first user story as a developer, an feature to edit and update comments posted. It passed the test too.
I'm proud of myself about the achieving this given my actually development experience is very minimal :)
More challenges to conquer..
Thanks1 -
So I want to install Linux (mainly bc of you guys) on my Laptop, but I don't know which one to choose. It is used mainly for coding (web and Java), Surfing and maybe 1-2 games. Any recommendations?22
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It's not my intention to start a web technology war so be nice do not do that 😁
Short Info: I'm "desktop programmer" (if that word exists) in either C # or Java 😎
question: I would like to create my own website, just simple to start with and maybe expand it later with eg. Arduino temperature meter
I have a look at 2 programming languages that I can build it in, Js or PHP. I just do not know which one to choose, I'm probably the most to Js, but what are the pros and cons of these 2 and / or is there a completely different programming language I have to take a look at?16 -
//Not a rant; Just asking for opinions
I'm trying to replicate this on a website. Should I go via the CSS route by making rounded squares or just place a bunch of images of each individual circle? Is there any pros or cons of doing either or? Or is it really all the same at the end? Thanks! 😅
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How do I get gud? Been coding in Python for a while now and I still have a little bit of a problem figuring out where to go. I can read the docs and generally construct a decent program if it's fairly simple. Go anywhere beyond what I know I end up having to google for examples. Not sure if that's how many people do it but I feel like it's cheap. I feel like I'm taking bits of code, modifying it, and slapping part of my own code to it. I'm trying to teach myself how to make my own program without any major help from Google.
I'm still new so I think it's okay for the most part but I don't want to be a half ass programmer who more or less just googles and slaps things together. I want to sit there, think of a problem, and think "Oh I can use this module to help me with this and I can create this function using xyz and that should solve it!" I'm sure part of that comes with practice, but what else can I do to get gud and not be a lousy coder?4 -
I've come to accept the fact that when I first learn a new concept I'm not gonna know what the heck I'm doing with it until I code it for myself and break it and then fix it. Bugs help you learn.1
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Whats up with Rust?
New to devrant so thought I'd post this here instead of googling (to practice devrant.. 😊)
Haven't heard of rust till lately but not sure it's place in coding languages...6 -
People are saying to improve you need to ask questions. In case you don't have friends that are in IT, who do you aks questions? Those silly ones that google can't answer? I don't want to go to SO, that place is toxic, and asking a dumb question on devrant feels like a waste of peoples time as well. Is there a platform for alone-ish developers to ask more experienced devs questions? without being shamed to death?13
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Hi everyone!
New to this app, and new to my PHP programer job .
Which types of projects/tutos can I do to increase my level quickly??
Greetings from France!9 -
Now I know why newbie profile photo is green circle
Everyone here is frustrated because of red circles/red dots on line number of the code xD1 -
I started studying programming last year, currently learning c# and c++ at college (even though I'm a 29 years old electrical engineer.. long story...) any advice on how to start looking for internships and jobs? I feel very lost on how to proceed to gain experience and feel that many of my colleagues have the same issue. Thanks4
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When a new manager joins ur team and start talking about shit he doesn't even understand and use the word "sacrifices"... Bitch, i've being in this entrepreneurship doing the job of 5 ppol for 5 years don't talk 2 me about sacrifice and compromise 🙄1
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This happened when I was in the first semester of my study (I'm currently studying Computer Science).
Didn't understand anything, never learned to code before. My first "project" from my lecturer was to write a mini-journal together with two friends of mine (which weren't able to code either) about the link of VR use with the increase/decrease of the user's heart rate.
We didn't find any way to record the user's heart rate automatically and periodically. The deadline was getting closer but thankfully we found an android app that can be used to detect someone's heart rate with the user's finger pressed onto the camera. Sadly the app can't be used to record the data periodically (it can only show us the average heart rate). We told my lecturer (who is supossed to "guide" us here) about the problem and asked him for solutions.
He told us to "modify the .apk and connect it to a database".
At this point, we didn't even know how to make a database, let alone "modify the .apk".
In the end, we used an oximeter, recorded it, and listed the results manually. 😂2 -
ive recently started to study chemical engineering and most of the people there never even heard of java or html. only a few people understands jokes about computers. the people i know who understand these jokes all study in other cities. so after i talked to a friend of mine about my studies he showed me devRant and i love it. so hello folks youve got a new member XD3
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New android dev joiners... Never Ever... I am saying.. never ever update the test devices in the office...!!! 😣😣
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!rant
TL;DR: New(-ish) dev looking for advice to improve workflow and new languages. Hopefully worth a read though :)
Newbie developer here, I took a web applications development class this year since I could take that at another campus rather than do general education courses at my home school, and I have learned and earned a CIW Certification for HTML5, CSS3, and JavaScript, though I know the certificates do squat if I can't apply myself to them, and I have learned PHP and MySQL.
I want to learn more, technically-applicable languages.
My setup is barebones (to a Linux diehard's eyes), with a gaming laptop that I do a lot of workstation stuff on, an RPi 3 B that I do some Linux-y stuff on, and a less-powerful Development Laptop (that I call a devtop) that I occasionally do work away from home on.
I'm sure most will cringe and weep at my workflow, as I use Windows 10 on both systems and the standard NOOBS software on the pi, and I use Brackets as my text editor, as well as the XAMPP AMP stack for testing.
My biggest questions are what could I do to improve my workflow, and what languages should I learn/apply myself to for real-world application (such as Node.js for live-updating server-side applications or C# for Windows applications)?
Thank you for taking the time to read this, any feedback is helpful! I'm just a high school student with a lot of enthusiasm for development!6 -
Developer-in-training at OSU, worried about being able to find a job. Contributing to an open-source project right now to try to hone my skills. Any advice from the more experienced?3
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Happy to be here 1st day and I'm enjoying it ,best social network ever for programmers ...been looking for such for so long and starting to get addicted.
Here I've learnt here that I need to start learning new stuff real fast.
Here I feel not alone,cos here I feel at home.
I'm Sam from Nigeria ( any Nigerian here?)2 -
Budding Developer here...
I've tried to teach myself Web Dev over the past 10 yrs on/off... Sad. But now I'm actually in a developer role moved up from IT helpdesk a year ago.
In the past year I've learned SQL, SSRS, SSIS, database concepts, and.... VB6. I am a master at none due to having to cram so much in a year while taking on various projects, issues, and learning the organizations software infrastructure and processes. I also taught myself current HTML, CSS, and basic Javascript. Learning the different basic concepts with each.
Over the past couple months I've been given a new project and now learning ASP.NET and C#. Actually trying really hard to get adept at these as I'm finally doing Web Developing in my role...
I am also dealing with multiple major family issues and a near 2 yr old that we cosleep with that still doesn't sleep through the night.
Why the crap is it so easy to convert an enum to a string but takes 50 functions to convert a string to an enum???
Cast, convert, parse... Why so much logic???
When the online teacher says type why do I have to rifle through 7 different meanings in my head before I know what kind of type he's referring to??4 -
Hi there everybody! Just joined the community, an aspiring Java developer (just started learning a few months ago so I am nowhere near calling myself a "Developer"). I'm committed to becoming a developer, and I am trying to join every community and every conversation out there possible to immerse myself as much as I can. Any advice, guidance, people/conversations here to look out for, anything that will help me in my Journey would be greatly appreciated!9
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!rant
Hello devRant, finally got around to create a profile after thoroughly enjoying it for some time here.1 -
I always wanted to have a society of developers coz. I am so bored with the people around me. You all guys here are most awesome people I guess... 😊2
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Kind of feeling when started Learning Rust
Rust Stable
Rust Beta
Rust Nightly
It really fRUSTrating but..
Awesomeness of new beats all odds
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For a JavaScript beginner, Is it efficient to learn with or use "Strict Mode" while building stuff?5
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Hi! I want to switch to linux but i never used it before and i want advice from you guys about the OS (what distro should i use and how to get started).15
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I remember when I first heard about the general concept of a stack, I wasn't quite sure how you would use it.
Now im learning about stacks in java algorithms class as well as learning about how the memory stack works in assembly class. This probably seems small to you pro devs, but ngl, it kinda blew my mind how useful this structure can be.1 -
Tfw you accepted a project you thought you "can" work on, but over time it turns out that you won't be able to finish the project on time.
:')7 -
¿Does it really takes that long to merge a branch when there is a conflict?
My "PM" takes like 20 minutes to fucking merge a branch that has a few lines of conflict... and I fucking hate to wait so long to continue on a ticket where I need previous work... I'm a JR full stack developer and I'm new to devRant... It was love at first sight.1 -
So I'm a newb to vim, I download gvim for my laptop a while back but hardly used it, I want to know if gvim is the only vim client or if there are more, how to like personalize it and like learn vim1
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Newbie frontend guy joined last month right after college. He's my age but never worked before. Wants to "fix" the entire codebase with cool new hippy react features without providing a valid reason to do so. Also, "hey, I don't understand what someone wrote, so let's just change the entire fucking thing so I don't have to put in the effort of understanding real, working code"
What's more annoying is that he won't settle even when being asked to do so by the senior guys.2 -
I just got into elixir and i want to build something just to practice the language. Suggest me something please cause I don't really know what to do...3
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Sometimes you don't need to think of an interesting or funny rant because life does it itself!
Several years ago I did my Bachelor's degree in Business Informatics which was not Informatics at all - regret at that time that I had choosen the subject.
After that started working for HP in a business/ marketing role which was quite nice but missing any technics.
So I internally applied for a dev role that was quite purely based on Linux knowledge that I did not have. Seems I convinced with my will to learn something new every day. And I did!
After two years in that role I now have my Linux certificate (CompTia Linux+), did a great job (according to my boss) and I am starting my Master's Degree in pure Informatics next week!
That led me to the most important decision - registering here at devRant. Seems we are colleagues now ;D.
Wish me luck and thank you all!1 -
I know javascript now, should i continue with it and learn deeper dom manupilation and es6 or start learning a framework like angular or react - nodejs? If yes wich framework to atart with3
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New on the job. Got assigned to a project a former employee didn't finish, thousands of lines of code with barely any comments or uninsightful comments.
Is this what being a developer is like?2 -
I'm fairly new in our team and yesterday I was going to work on an app I hadn't contributed to yet.
...except I couldn't get it to run on my machine. None of my co-workers knew why and I've spent the entire day trying to solve the problem.
Ultimately I found it. There was a stray package-lock.json that screwed up npm.3 -
I'm in my final year of high school, 17 years old, hoping to go to TAFE to do a coding course. I've done some HTML, CSS and Java at school and I only really know the basics of them all. I've been learning python in my free time and fuck man is it confusing. I love coding but it's so confusing at times, I really need some words of encouragement. Thanks guys :)4
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Please look at this code, I wanna know why the $ and {} was added to the alert method to pop up the key and value of user.
what is their functionality there?
let user = {
name: "John",
age: 30
};
// loop over keys-and-values
for (let [key, value] of Object.entries(user)) {
alert(`${key}:${value}`); // name:John, then age:30
}4 -
4:35a.m and I trashed my personal side project app because attempt to add a feature led from one refactoring to another to another till I got lost.. lol Starting fresh tomorrow. #newbieDev4
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So I'm trying to get used to linux. Is there a site or something with tasks, so you can practice the most common linux tools?3
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Hi devs! I am about to make some app for Fedora, but I'm kinda newbie. I know basics, but i wanna learn new stuff. Okay, straigth to the point: What would you recommend me to make and in what language?6
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Dreaming in Code!
I know very little code at this point. Mostly HTML, CSS and a sprinkling of JavaScript and Python.
That was clearly enough for my brain to generate some imaginary lines and fill the gaps in a night of wild dreams.
I guess any code language works much like human languages with grammars, vocabularies and punctuations.
So dreaming in code isn't all that odd?!
Whether you're learning Japanese or JavaScript, Portuguese or Python, you need to read, repeat and regurgitate.
I hope that's what my mind attempted last night. Not the most visually inspiring of dreams, but certainly vivid.
Has anyone else experienced something similar? Has anyone tried applying language learning tricks to learning coding?8 -
!rant
Dev friends! I'm a teacher who is in the process of transitioning into the tech field. I've been working like crazy on and off in my spare time for the past couple years to build my skills and with it a resume. The other day I went to get someone with a developers perspective to proof read it and realised I didn't have anyone!
I hope I don't offend anyone by posting this here but I would appreciate that anyone who is willing and interested, if you would take a look at my resume repo I have and let me know what you think (on GitHub)! Please be critical, that's what makes things better! Side note. I'm constantly baffled by comradery in this community as a whole.
https://github.com/alexmdodge/...3 -
Sometime ago I had to debug a override to a Joomla component made by the trainne.
So the component work just fine on development but not in production. I made the transition myself so I knew the code was the same.
This is my first rant, quite long, hope you like it.
So I thought something went wrong in the database, I searched and didn't find a thing.
Then I decided to check the code... hold yourself now
The component had to support internalization ..so instead of using the proper function to see what the current language is, he made a if with the URL hard coded..
Like http:://dummy.com/en/
:)2 -
I've got an interview invitation as a freelancer. I've never freelanced before. What if I don't know how to do what the client wants me to do? Halp.3
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I am about to change job, leave my first company to another, hopefully better one. I have one offer for a multinational company, plus training perks and an offer from a smaller one. They roughly give me the same money. Did a trial day in both of them and they seemed ok to work...
Everyone I talked to, told me to go for the small one, but I really don't know what to do.
Any ranter have carrier advice?5 -
You may find his funny, bt do answer it honestly, as a Unity dev,I have been using windows for past 3 years cause I have no option,now my question is
WHY SHOULD I USE UBUNTU ?
Plz state the benefits over windows.
Thanks :)13 -
If I want to develop a fuzzer for an open source software, do I need to code it in the same language as the open source software is written?
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Can you please suggest some great freelancing websites for beginners?? Also the pay that a beginner gets? Also your experience as a newbie freelancer?1
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Trying to understand why there is an absurd amount of tooling for most nodejs apps. Is this present in other languages as well? Is it worth learning? From my viewpoint as a new developer, it seems like there should be more consolidation there. Or a more elegant way to build1
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okay so i want some suggestions from you people, basically i am undergraduate, highly interested in web development as well as software development, i have created some web apps(i use MEAN stack). i want to become an open source contributor and i am not sure how to do that. I have tried going to different github repos but it was of no help. So any suggestions on what to do and how to do is welcome5
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!Rant
#100daysofcode :
Day 1to7
Finished Jon duckett html and css book.
Totally recommend for Beginners.
Marksheet.io once you have understanding basic things enough
Great site for revision.
Is there anyone who is just starting out? New to html and CSS?2 -
Got scouted by an agent for a educational institute. The position I am scouted for is a full-stack engineer. This will be my first interview, scheduled for next friday. The only working experience I've had is working on software development projects during my studies. I want the job since it pays well and they will help me relocate but I'm super nervous.
Any tips?2 -
PHP Devs quick question,
I have a project using PleskPHP5 (or that's the processor I found in config)
I'm a bit familiar with Laravel though I'm not sure, are they different? How to migrate to Laravel?
And the project was developed on Windows and I want to use it on Linux do I need to change anything?
I'm a complete noob in php but I want to learn with that project11 -
Well after weeks (or months. I lost track) of lurking I finally joined yesterday and I'm already ordering my stickers! Thank you all for making it a community worth joining!
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So I graduated last year learned everything I would need to succeed in the job world. I got to my first rotation, I solved a total of 6-7 jiras in the past 6 months. I got to my second rotation, my new team is pretty much all remote and it’s been 2 weeks that i have been sitting idle. Their code base is not on git they’re not organized as my first one and I’m confused as to what they do, there’s not really any confluence and the deployment of code is done via uploading a jar. I really want them to adopt a structure like my last team or something similar because but I don’t know enough how to implement a new deployment process. I feel like sitting idle is the worst so I’m gonna start to see if I can implement a proper structure for them but who knows if they’ll even use it.3
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Hey guys, not a rant but a question.
I want to make an app for android and this is gonna be the first one. Which language would you suggest and any other suggestions?
Thanks.9 -
When you're getting to get into programming but you can't find a good project fit your skill level3
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So I'm relatively new to Python. I've started doing the practicepython.org challenges. What do you guys think to my code layout, is there any way I can improve.
https://github.com/Rotho98/...5 -
Should I buy a Surface pro or get a pc assembled for Linux or get a pc assembled for Windows. I'm new to dev and not planning to be a web dev. I already have a MacBook Pro and at work I have a Windows desktop. Also I'm planning to get in to gaming. Whatever OS it is I will be exploring it and learning. I have read so much on what would be thr best option but still can't make a decision.6
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A news reporter asked Kobe how did he manage to maintain his performance being the best NBA player. Kobe replied and asked the reporter he know how does LA looks like at 4am.
Shit Kobe wakes up at 4am and go to training at court. Why I stay awake till 4am yet I'm a mediocre programmer lulz1 -
I am facing some problem on my new project. This is how I expect my project to work.
1. I am working on an Android application that uses Twitter sentiment analysis and gives out predictive result.
2. I want to keep the backend that is the python file/NLTK script on server/cloud/anywhere.
3. The Android App take the input and pass it to server.
4. In backend the tweets regarding the input are processed and after that a result is generated. The result is passed to Android App(client).
5. The app displays the result.
The problem is I don't know how to create the server(All I have is .py file). Secondly I don't know how to create request/response between the app and the server( client with .py) like how to create communication between them.
I have googled the query but am unable to come up with any reasonable solution. Any suggestions are welcome.1 -
!rant.. Ok starting my new job, my first job, as a developer in 20-ish days? You got any tips when arriving at new workplace/things you wish you knew before starting. Not the classic tips of asking questions etc but practical ones you wish you had known before (-:3
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Okay question, I know it doesn’t matter for personal use but I’m not sure what the general consensus is in a team setting.
If I’m using a css framework in a project, and I customize it to match my style guide, does that require documentation usually?
Mainly speaking on changing the colors here for the most part I’m not going Rambo on the original files.
I’m asking in case I catch some freelance gigs; I don’t want to be clueless if there’s a few others on the project as I’ve only done solo work.2 -
Just came from professional school (is it correct? - school during apprenticeship), I have to develop some features for a project - and finish writing the documentation and User Manual .. but.. but.. first I need a coffee - a Big coffee :D
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Who could explain what a container is? Like a Docker container, but not necessarily Docker. Google doesn't provide simple yet meaningful answer (or there is something wrong with me today). Any ideas?8
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What’s a practical use case of the ES6 spread operator? I’m pretty fresh and would just like to see a real world example where you would need to destructure some array values and apply them to function Params.3
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What do you think about this?
https://www.tuxedocomputers.com
I will need a new laptop soon and I want to go back to Linux. Is it worth it to go for something in there, or is it better to get a any other machine?3 -
I want to manipulate CSV files with Python and I was using NumPy, what I want to do is 3 columns, with an undetermined number of rows, and I want to be able to remove, add and edit every value, this is my questions:
Should I use NumPy? (if yes, please tell me how, I've been searching on google and I couldn't find anything of help! If not, please tell me what I should use,)4 -
Hey guys! I want to expand my capabilities when it comes to development and I want to start with front end web development. Any project ideas, js recommendations, tips?1
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The struggle when you use fscanf and once you used & many times and this one time you forgot & and the whole program gets Access Violation :(
&tab[i] instead of tab[i] -
Hey!
Would you recommend React Native, or Electron for a not really experienced programmer?
I am just starting with JavaScript, and these two tools are the most fascinating to me. :)
I have been learning C# in school, but mostly had to teach myself in the past year.
Anyway, thank you, if you answer, it is really nice on devRant, and it's my first developer community to be part of! :D
Sorry for the broken english - not my primary language.7 -
!rant
I just found out I don't need to download jQuery to use jQuery. If I can just include jQuery in the <script> tag in order to load it into my HTML doc, what is the download for?10 -
Okay so i am trying my hands in web dev, majorly the backend stuff and my aim is to launch a simple web app in a production grade environment, to get a basic knowledge of various tools.
So i had the following project in mind: "save my secret string" . this is going to be a minimal site with 2 blocks.
in the first block in which user can add an id_string and data_string, and press enter. on pressing enter, the data will get saved in backend. if the id is already used, it will over write it with new data.
in the second block there's going to be a search button and an output area where user can enter the id string and get output( no matter who added the output, if key is correct, they can access it) if its available in the database. Kind of like a pastebin, but without any links
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is it a simple project to learn the back end basics?I plan to add more features to it and later convert it to full scale blog site.
So can you help with a few pointers on what should i be looking upon to get it running like a full production app ? I know of a few buzz words that production apps use in their environment: docker multi containers, vanilla html/css/js , some form of encryption lib, aws instances and vpc / multi user ec2, mysql, postman and some kind of js framework for sql queries( i guess that's postgres)
I don't really know much about any of them, so can you help me with a flow on what should i learn to make this app possible? -
Hey Arch people! Wanna help a newbie get started? I'm very comfortable with sysadmin and are currently using Ubuntu with XMonad for DE.
I'd like to 'build' my own, super minimal system. It should preferably have gtk theming with XMonad as de. I've been looking at suckless and are currently wonder what I actually need to prepare/know in order for networking, VSCode(or learn vim), QT and docker to run on the system. It has a Nvidia graphics card and I'd like to use it for ML too.
Dont worry, I'm also going through the Arch page and are looking for answers to my questions & thoughts.. I just know I haven't thought of everything yet, probably not even all the basics.
Oh and please roast me for my ignorance, as long as you tell me something useful 😝6 -
Ah. As someone learning Python coming from .NET background, function names starting with a lower case is killing me.
I just spent 5 minutes figuring out why "PIL.Image.Open" didn't work. It's "open" not "Open"!!! -
I'm about to be a Web Developer. Our bootcamp is about to end tomorrow. More sleepless nights for me then.
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New to wordpress.
Wordpress gods,
How would i send a mail using 'wp mail smtp' plugin? I completed the procedure and test mail was successful. How would i call this from UI. No tuts saying anything about that i guess4
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