Does anyone of you own a Microsoft Surface?

What are your thoughts on Surface vs. Mac.

For my next laptop upgrade, I am thinking to invest in a decent one which lasts of half a decade or longer.

Mac is surely out of question.

Have had terrible experience with Lenovo and Sony. Don't quite like HP or others.

Remaining options are Surface or Dell.

@jespersh Lol

If I could customise every bit of my machine and make it portable, fuck yes, nothing like that.

@rEaL-jAsE hmmm thanks for the review.

Would never enter the Apple ecosystem, if I can.

@rEaL-jAsE never.

Back in college days, my friend had an HP laptop. That was when I realised that 50% of the global warming contribution was done by HP laptops.

Samsung had really nice hardware. Battery replacement is not fun but housing and everything else was mighty fine. Software was utter crap though. Unfortunately they seem to have pulled out.

Had a lot of issues with dell and my current dell laptop was actually a step down from my Samsung laptop 5 years older. I got the dell XPS developer edition but my Samsung also still works although battery needs replacing.
Nice thing about dell is that it is quite flexible regarding what you can have in it.
Support wise HP is awesome at least for the probooks.
At the moment I think Apple has the best hardware but yeah we both are not fond of OSX and the keyboard situation.

The Surface Pro is a first generation 2-in-1 detachable of the Microsoft Surface series, designed and manufactured by Microsoft

@hjk101 hmmm

My first was Vaio and everyone around got a Dell XPS or some other variant.

When I went for my second, I had an option for Dell and god knows what I was thinking that for minor difference of num pad, I opted for Lenovo over Dell.

Guess who learned from his not so great decisions?

In my country, Dell seems to be the best in every aspect, especially after sales. I find them quite sturdy because my Vaio and Lenovo, both had their body damaged multiple times and had to go for re-fabrication.

Given the price range for Surface, I'd stick to Dell next.

@Floydimus
Yeah especially the cheaper Lenovo's are really bad.

I had really good warranty for a year with my personal XPS and needed it. Both keyboard and touchpad issues straight from the factory. Fingerprint reader does not work (and never will because Linux incompatible).
The screws get loose every now and then and are fucking torx 5. Every set that has torx does not go that low.
It is a really sturdy machine, can't complain about that.

At work we had whole model range 3 in 1 laptops with issues (BSOD's). That is where fun begins. They start swapping out every part not acknowledging it's a design issue. Same model on the outside months earlier where fine but with dell they swap a lot of components over time.
Eventually they took them back but we had nearly a year of unusable laptops.

@hjk101 oh tell me about those shitty screws.

At work, they gave me a Dell which was a touch screen. Man that thing was a beauty.

My mother, who isn't a very tech savvy person, still keeps mentioning that Dell model. When I showed her the Mac that I got last week, she was like, " okay.. but that Dell was fantastic."

Lol Dell passes the mom test.

@Floydimus @hjk101 I've been using my Samsung since 2013. It is still fast and responsive today. Although even back then it couldn't run my workload (cloud-first and cloud-only, baby!), so it only ever handles browsing, ssh terminal and maaaaybe cities skylines from time to time.
But, man, those things last.

Been using the corporate Dell Inspiron for work. Solid rig, dropped it from a desk once and only had a minor scratch on the metal shell. Pretty decent specs too, makes short time for compiling a project load of C++ while juggling a dozen tabs and a zoom meeting. Heats up like a grill, though.

They're nice but you can't customize anything. I'd recommend them to tech illiterate people, or as a secondary device. Never as your main working machine, same goes for any of the all soldered computers that companies like to shit out. If you really really want one, invest in the best available CPU, anda ton of memory and storage.

hp omen series is actually pretty good, except you need to open it up and clean the cooling vents about every year and a half otherwise it starts throttling due to overheating.

Surface book was their best product imo, but that got discontinued. Owned 1 and 2. Loved them to bits. Not very fast though.

Surface laptops are really decent too I hear. Hardware is just a little behind for some reason.

Surface tablets look sexy these days, but windows hasn't been nice on a tablet since 8.1 imo.

For work i got a rather powerful Dell Latitude. Really nice computer, I have ubuntu running on it with no problems and the machine runs like a dream.

As far as overall development, there is a lot of bang-for-your-buck to obtain from Macbooks if you can afford them, in the event of wanting to enter the mobile space, you have support for all environments(Android and IOS) since only apple can develop apple things. I consider them a BSD based workstation, not everyone's cup of tea, but I like them.

A coworker has a surface pro, he seems to like it a lot, have not used them myself, but considering that he is the DBA and works from it all the time I would say that the results are good enough.

Penis

I am using an surface pro 6 for a few years now. Currently it is running ubuntu but I would advise you to go for a lenovo

@JsonBoa TIL Samsung sells laptops.

@ars1 what do you mean by customisation? Hardware or software?

@Midnight-shcode HP never did good design + what I last remember they have severe heating issues. Things might have changed, but never liked the design.

@jaylord I have heard Win 11 is as awful as it can get, especially in terms of the UI. And you mentioned performance. What were the issues there?

@AleCx04 Mac might be good for development purposes, maybe because it's Unix based. I remember now, Dell Latitude series is one of the best I have used and seen in the market so far. Pretty solid stuff. Ballocks.

@GlitterUnicorn I think that's the best combination. Surface with Linux. Why would you recommend me Lenovo when you yourself are using Surface?

@Floydimus because of the price difference. But if money is not a problem splurge on a surface