You cant write that you have used Linux on your CV just because you are using WSL

Sounds like gatekeeping to me.

I just use the opportunity to start asking them specific questions like:

- what is your preferred distro?
- have you ever had to rebuild grub?
- what kernel are you running?
- sysV or sysD?
- what AV are you using?

To date, I have never asked past the first question. It's usually all confusion after that question.

Answers ranged from, "just Linux, I don't know Unix." To, "I started with trusty tahr, but I'm just upgrading to bionic beaver."

One candidate stood their ground firm and told me I was flat out wrong and that Ubuntu was the only distro...I told him to go have a Google about redhat to expand his horizons and ended the interview.

I always wondered if he gave up and became a .NET developer.

@sariel damn, even Ubuntu 's own website describes it as a "debian based distro". Regardless of "which one is better", everybody must agree that there are many distros

But he has a point.

@sariel I can answer everything except what is AV?

@lambda123 of course you do

But using WSL is using linux. I wouldn't hire them to administer an actual linux server, but they can use some CLI tools at least.

@lambda123 There is always one in any Linux distro thread....

@BessmertnyL antivirus.

It's a bit of a trick question though.

ClamAV is typical but you can also use other enterprise level scanners like avast or Kaspersky.

There's others, but none that I have experience with enough to mention.

Personally I use clam because it's free and easy to maintain.

@sariel antivirus on Linux? Seriously?

@jespersh oh, sorry, didnt know that

@BessmertnyL and this is why it's a trick question.

Because everyone knows nobody installs AV on Linux because of the false sense of security/superiority.

Please... Install a trusted AV.

Wait, there are people that mention they use Linux in their CV?

@Sariel

- I wish it was Arch but I end up using Ubuntu because that's the only distro most of the corp software runs on that I have to work with.

- Usually if I have ended up screwing things up that bad I ended up just reinstalling from scratch

- 5.x I think whatever the current Ubuntu is.

- If I ever have a time machine the first thing I am going to do is go back in time and off the guy that invented node, but the next person on the list is the fellow behind SystemD

- If there's a virus on there its because I was the one that developed it, otherwise I'll defend my system with SELinux like a man.

@magicMirror WSL1 isn't even Linux at all.

@happygimp0 idc.
It is semantics.

Busybox is not a full distro.
Nobody knows how docker actually works on windows. Or how the fuck to install a specific version of a snap, or how to configure grub2 to work with a secureboot uefi. Or how and when to use Chroot.

"I worked with linux" means they know what it is, and used it for something. Anything really. And piehole installs counts.

All my fellow Windows Git Bash connoisseurs know that's Linux too 😏

@magicMirror well, I have been using Linux for ten years and know Unix-based systems fairly well (theoretically). Does that count for Linux knowledge or should I be able to do LFS?

@BessmertnyL nobody "knows" Unix unless they are over 60.

Even then, only those that know her in the biblical sense can truly say, "It's a Unix system! I know this!"

@sariel obviously I mean basic principles of Unix architecture, e.g. POSIX standarts. But yes, you definitely have a point, not gonna brag here.

@magicMirror With that definition, someone that has an Android phone and knows what Linux is fulfills that. But seriously: Using Linux is easy and it is obvious that you can use Linux in my Field. It is like mentioning that you can use a search engine.

@happygimp0 just to clarify: using Linux is not easy. When I switched to an Ubuntu many years ago, it was a shock for me. It was so different from Windows system that it took me years to begin understand it.

@BessmertnyL Different from Windows != Hard.

Windows is not easy, for me, Windows is extremely more difficult to use and understand.

@sariel We have bitdefender. I installed it on my Linux system at work. Every wednesday during scheduled scan it would crash my system. So I uninstalled it. I will scan things going to a customer as customer facing software is all Windows based. But our paid solution for linux is lacking. Just have to be diligent for files you share. If I was running a server I would install a scanner on the system to scan files added to be served.

WSL kinda sucks. I could never figure out how to automate scripts to run by schedule from windows. Nor could I figure out how to run scripts by double clicking an icon from desktop. This was almost 3 years ago when I played with this. Has that part gotten better?

My main driver became linux after this so it kinda went away anyway.

@sariel I used Unix systems. I had to maintain an HP one and it was ancient when I took it over. I am not 50 yet. Did I know the ins and outs? No, because I hated it. Preferred linux systems.

@Demolishun Regarding the scheduling: You can call into WSL with "wsl --command" (you can specify the the distro, user, ...).

@Demolishun I'm run clam every day starting at 3am.

I start at 6am so it's almost always done just as I login.

Haven't had any problems with it, but I'm also not using it at all while the scan runs.

My neighbor does HPUX still, so do a couple of the people I work with. It definitely takes some black magic fuckery to do it, and I ain't got it.

@happygimp0
Yup. Using android counts. Why? Because you need to know it is linux...
And we agree - it is the same as putting "able to search the web" in your CV.

Like all skills - some people have more knowledge, others have almost none. Whats the solution? ask candidatea if they use Arch?

@sariel

You are missing the point.

@BessmertnyL

Antivirus on Linux is nessecary.

you can say you use linux if you use docker as well

@jespersh even file scan on email and any other entrypoint data can be sent over.

@happygimp0 some people can't even use a search engine, especially the elder users.

@darksideofyay

@max@max19931

How to login to devrant

can your ex say that though?

@JsonBoa Linux distros are a giant tree as every new distro is based on existing ones, which all use the linux kernel.

@BessmertnyL file Scanner that checks every file against Signatures and move rhem into "protected" area.