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You cant write that you have used Linux on your CV just because you are using WSL

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    Sounds like gatekeeping to me.

    I just use the opportunity to start asking them specific questions like:

    - what is your preferred distro?
    - have you ever had to rebuild grub?
    - what kernel are you running?
    - sysV or sysD?
    - what AV are you using?

    To date, I have never asked past the first question. It's usually all confusion after that question.

    Answers ranged from, "just Linux, I don't know Unix." To, "I started with trusty tahr, but I'm just upgrading to bionic beaver."

    One candidate stood their ground firm and told me I was flat out wrong and that Ubuntu was the only distro...I told him to go have a Google about redhat to expand his horizons and ended the interview.

    I always wondered if he gave up and became a .NET developer.
  • 7
    @sariel damn, even Ubuntu 's own website describes it as a "debian based distro". Regardless of "which one is better", everybody must agree that there are many distros
  • 0
    But he has a point.
  • 2
    @sariel I can answer everything except what is AV?
  • 2
    @lambda123 of course you do
  • 3
    But using WSL is using linux. I wouldn't hire them to administer an actual linux server, but they can use some CLI tools at least.

    @lambda123 There is always one in any Linux distro thread....
  • 1
    @BessmertnyL antivirus.

    It's a bit of a trick question though.

    ClamAV is typical but you can also use other enterprise level scanners like avast or Kaspersky.

    There's others, but none that I have experience with enough to mention.

    Personally I use clam because it's free and easy to maintain.
  • 1
    @sariel antivirus on Linux? Seriously?
  • 0
    @jespersh oh, sorry, didnt know that
  • 3
    @BessmertnyL and this is why it's a trick question.

    Because everyone knows nobody installs AV on Linux because of the false sense of security/superiority.

    Please... Install a trusted AV.
  • 2
    Wait, there are people that mention they use Linux in their CV?
  • 2
    @Sariel

    - I wish it was Arch but I end up using Ubuntu because that's the only distro most of the corp software runs on that I have to work with.

    - Usually if I have ended up screwing things up that bad I ended up just reinstalling from scratch

    - 5.x I think whatever the current Ubuntu is.

    - If I ever have a time machine the first thing I am going to do is go back in time and off the guy that invented node, but the next person on the list is the fellow behind SystemD

    - If there's a virus on there its because I was the one that developed it, otherwise I'll defend my system with SELinux like a man.
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    @magicMirror WSL1 isn't even Linux at all.
  • 1
    @happygimp0 idc.
    It is semantics.

    Busybox is not a full distro.
    Nobody knows how docker actually works on windows. Or how the fuck to install a specific version of a snap, or how to configure grub2 to work with a secureboot uefi. Or how and when to use Chroot.

    "I worked with linux" means they know what it is, and used it for something. Anything really. And piehole installs counts.
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    All my fellow Windows Git Bash connoisseurs know that's Linux too 😏
  • 0
    @magicMirror well, I have been using Linux for ten years and know Unix-based systems fairly well (theoretically). Does that count for Linux knowledge or should I be able to do LFS?
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    @BessmertnyL nobody "knows" Unix unless they are over 60.

    Even then, only those that know her in the biblical sense can truly say, "It's a Unix system! I know this!"
  • 0
    @sariel obviously I mean basic principles of Unix architecture, e.g. POSIX standarts. But yes, you definitely have a point, not gonna brag here.
  • 3
    @magicMirror With that definition, someone that has an Android phone and knows what Linux is fulfills that. But seriously: Using Linux is easy and it is obvious that you can use Linux in my Field. It is like mentioning that you can use a search engine.
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    @happygimp0 just to clarify: using Linux is not easy. When I switched to an Ubuntu many years ago, it was a shock for me. It was so different from Windows system that it took me years to begin understand it.
  • 0
    @BessmertnyL Different from Windows != Hard.

    Windows is not easy, for me, Windows is extremely more difficult to use and understand.
  • 1
    @sariel We have bitdefender. I installed it on my Linux system at work. Every wednesday during scheduled scan it would crash my system. So I uninstalled it. I will scan things going to a customer as customer facing software is all Windows based. But our paid solution for linux is lacking. Just have to be diligent for files you share. If I was running a server I would install a scanner on the system to scan files added to be served.
  • 1
    WSL kinda sucks. I could never figure out how to automate scripts to run by schedule from windows. Nor could I figure out how to run scripts by double clicking an icon from desktop. This was almost 3 years ago when I played with this. Has that part gotten better?

    My main driver became linux after this so it kinda went away anyway.
  • 1
    @sariel I used Unix systems. I had to maintain an HP one and it was ancient when I took it over. I am not 50 yet. Did I know the ins and outs? No, because I hated it. Preferred linux systems.
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    @Demolishun Regarding the scheduling: You can call into WSL with "wsl --command" (you can specify the the distro, user, ...).
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    @Demolishun I'm run clam every day starting at 3am.

    I start at 6am so it's almost always done just as I login.

    Haven't had any problems with it, but I'm also not using it at all while the scan runs.

    My neighbor does HPUX still, so do a couple of the people I work with. It definitely takes some black magic fuckery to do it, and I ain't got it.
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    @happygimp0
    Yup. Using android counts. Why? Because you need to know it is linux...
    And we agree - it is the same as putting "able to search the web" in your CV.

    Like all skills - some people have more knowledge, others have almost none. Whats the solution? ask candidatea if they use Arch?
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    @sariel

    You are missing the point.
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    @BessmertnyL

    Antivirus on Linux is nessecary.
  • 1
    you can say you use linux if you use docker as well
  • 0
    @jespersh even file scan on email and any other entrypoint data can be sent over.
  • 0
    @happygimp0 some people can't even use a search engine, especially the elder users.
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    @darksideofyay

    @max@max19931

    How to login to devrant
  • 0
    can your ex say that though?
  • 0
    @JsonBoa Linux distros are a giant tree as every new distro is based on existing ones, which all use the linux kernel.
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    @BessmertnyL file Scanner that checks every file against Signatures and move rhem into "protected" area.
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