Damn hackers! Within the course of a week, the internet of my country has been DDOS-attacked three times! Last week the attacks came from Russia or China". Yesterday they came from Russia and Ukraina. Is this a part of the Russian military exercises Zapad 17? Well, when an important part of the infrastructure is down and thousands of civilians are affected, it's for real and not an exercise.

Could be that open source device hijack thing.

@projektaquarius Maybe, I don't know.

Yea that's Russia for you. Fucking shitcakes

@hash-table it would make the world a better place if they didn't 🤣

I don't think it's the governments of those countries. I mean, why should they? :D

Probably it's just the location of the C&C server (or, if you're lucky, the bots, but I doubt that).

@theCalcaholic Let's hope you're right. But on the other hand, why should they not? I've read somewhere that, probably Russian, hackers have hacked into the power grid of many countries and can whenever they want cut the power in those countries. It wouldn't surprise me a lot if they could do the same with IT infrastructure, and these DDOS attacks might only be exercise before a real fire sale. The ability to cripple the infrastructure of your enemies would most certainly be a very powerful weapon in warfare.

@TerriToniAX Yes, but I think, the risk of provoking conflicts will also be of consideration by these countries - I doubt it's worth it to them. In which country are you living, by the way (if I may ask)?

@theCalcaholic In Åland Islands (it says in my profile too :))

@TerriToniAX Ah! Didn't think of looking there. :)

Well I'm pretty certain that at least China's military interest in your country is negligible. ;)

@theCalcaholic Of course the stakes are high if provoking other countries, but I think the regimes feel safe that the attacks won't be traced back to them. They might have paid the hacker groups, but that would be very hard to prove. Or is it just my own conspiracy theory?

@theCalcaholic Yeah, I don't think that the attack came from China. Russia, on the other hand, has great interests here. Occupying Åland Islands and Gotland would allow them to control the whole Baltic area, and cut off former Soviet countries lika Estonia, Lativa and Lithuania from the outside world.

@TerriToniAX Well, I'm certain the mentioned countries have these capabilities. But in this case I simply don't think that their benefits would outweigh the risks.

@hash-table Cool! We'd better not mess with you then :)

@theCalcaholic Russia generally doesn't give a fuck about relations. They are brutes, bullies, examples of that are plentiful. It is not a civilised country by any standard, far from it.

@Froot I wouldn't go so far but I see where you're coming from. But I don't think it's relevant in this case. It's not a question of 'being civilized' - is a question of risk and return.

Unfortunately, most countries are very unscrupulous if there's only damage/risk to other countries involved and they can profit (remember the story about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?).

@hash-table

Remember the great firewall in China? Russia propably thought

"Well, that's a cool idea! But it's too expensive..."

"Wait, isn't there a lot of underpowered hardware laying around?"

"Yeah, let's just go crazy with attacks and stuff and let the providers do the rest!"

Not all Russians are huge douchebags. I just want you to know that. I'm ashamed of some of my comrades.

@gecko Exactly. My original answer to @Froot was a lot more explicit. I don't think much of that kind of generalization. I share this criticism to the Russian government, but calling Russians in general 'brutes' and 'bullies' is escapist and primitive.

"Examples" don't prove anything and can be found for any nationality/race/attribute.

@gecko didn't ment to offend anyone. I don't think so neither. Should've stated that directly :)

@theCalcaholic This is going off topic here but I live in a country with a large russian population (too large) and there is overwhelming evidence to prove my argument. Of course, not all are bad, and I feel bad for the good ones as the bad apples bring their image down too, but as an average, my point stands

@Froot Correlation is not causality. Even if your subjective perception is correct it doesn't prove a thing.
Maybe what you observe is just the consequence of failed immigration (resulting in immigrants having bad chances in life resulting in turn in an unproportional level of criminality among them)?

That's just one possibility. Don't easily assume correlations to be casually linked.

You mean Запад 17 ? 😂

@theCalcaholic What are you talking about? Crime news being full of Russian named people, most scam companies being owned by Russians, Russians screaming and acting violently in downtown, the list goes on. What fucking correlation are you talking about here, it's pure evidence not correlation. And I'm talking about my country, not internationally here.

Also, it's not immigration. Those fucks where brought here in piles in the Soviet times to snuff out the local culture. They failed, thankfully, but they are not immigrants. More like the descendants of an offensive force.

Edit: Oh, and Crimea, Syria, Chechnya? Civilised country my ass!

Anyway, this really is getting off topic here

@Froot What you are listing are good examples for correlations which might or might not be causally linked.

Only because Russians are like that where you live it does neither mean that this is because they are Russians nor that Russians in other areas are similar (all provided, that your observations are objectively correct, which I can't judge).

However you are right that this is becoming increasingly off-topic, so we can leave it at that.

@b02mne Yes, that's what I meant :D

@gecko Of course not :) There are really nice people in every country. And wherever there's people, no matter nationality, there's granted to be at least one idiot :D

@theCalcaholic and @Froot I would never have guessed what an interesting discussion my rant sparked off :D Glad you guys sort of agreed to disagree. We're all friends here at devRant, right? :D It's always a sensitive subject to bring up the traits of different countries. From my point of view, living a little too close to Russia for comfort, I don't trust that country. Historically, they have a track record of untrustworthiness, picking fights with just about each and every neighbouring country they've ever had and even betrayed their allies, such as China. Sure, there are good things about Russia too, such as the food, genious chess players, great composers of classical music and - of course - Tetris :) But apart from that?...My apologies to all of you Russians that are actually good, but I'd lie if I said that I hold your country in high regard.

@theCalcaholic Yea 🙂

@TerriToniAX I guess you're also from Eastern Europe. We have the same kind of history it seems :P

@Froot I'm from the very border between West and East :)

@TerriToniAX Ah, Poland then 😃 Awesome!

Edit: I remembered your previous posts in this rant now. Fuck my brain

@TerriToniAX I'm totally with you (both) in regards to the >country< Russia. There is a lot to worry about and criticize.

However, I refuse to apply conclusions on the whole people based on that alone - or even based on some personal observations, that's all. :)

And of course, I have no antipathy for @Froot. We simply disagree on a topic. Everything's fine. :D