This is how I feel after working, almost exclusively, with PHP over the last 4 years.

I Feel you bro

Why? PHP is not so bad. It is simple and tolerates many mistakes. Maybe that's why it's considered bad. Set the setting to "strict" and you'll have a full-grown programming language that doesn't tolerate mistakes.

I like PHP7, especially with the many great frameworks like Laravel, ZF3, ...

@tracktraps I've turned my back on ZF since v3.. next project will be symfony

@tracktraps I've tried to use types for everything; on parameters, return types on functions, etc. This has made PHP a much more sane language, but there are things PHP is just horrible at.

I love PHP. Here, I said it.

One of my friends says: "PHP4/5 was horrible, PHP7 is much better"

@RealKC PHP 7 is much better, but it's still missing a lot. It seems like they're just patching their crappy versions.

@conmarap at least they're fixing their shitty stuff

Oh ya? I am the same way, but with Classic ASP, even though I like it. I find myself cursing it constantly.

@linuxxx "I love PHP".
My eyes are getting wet ...

@tracktraps Whether that's a good or a bad thing, yes I do.

If PHP had a slightly better type system, pattern matching, and arrow functions, I'd be pretty happy.

Parameter inconsistencies I can deal with. I never use array_map or array_filter anyway, I use collections with functional methods, and those deal with the weird ordering for me. DateTime is a bitch, but Carbon is a great wrapper. Curl is retarded, but Guzzle makes it nice... etc.

But I switch/case and if/then are ugly compared to the good pattern matchers from Haskell and Rust.

And writing

->map(function(User $user): User use (..., ...) {...});

is getting old as well... just give me https://wiki.php.net/rfc/... already!

@tracktraps yep.

@linuxxx It's a good thing :)

@bittersweet That's why there are frameworks that work around this crap. I can't complain about PHP7 anyway. It's quite all right.

Usually is not the language but the programmer 😀

Is this legit from the Simpson's?

@kurtr I edited the original one to look like this. The original one says "Old man yells at cloud"

@conmarap ahh I ask because of this rant https://devrant.io/rants/552737/...

Was hoping I could expand my collection 😂

@conmarap nice editing though!

@kurtr haha! That's a nice one!

@PhantomBKB still does, more than 80% if I remember well

@PhantomBKB I found the actual source https://w3techs.com/technologies/...
Is more than 80%

Soooo true!!! 😭😭😭 Then you look at Python and it feels as if Christmas had come early..

Discovered Laravel -> yells stopped :D

I will join the group of people yelling "<3 php"

Yeah, been in PHP 3 years.

Cant look back. I love it.