I just want to shout that I'm freaking tired of being used and not pay for my services because of fucking friendship!! WHAT THE FUCK!! IM DONE WITH YOUR CRAAAP!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT FUCKING PROJECT TAKES ME 3 DAYS TO FINISH AND YOU WILL JUST SAY THANK YOU?????!!! WHAT THE FUCK!!!! :(

Welcome and calm down, it's your work, you spend you time and knowledge on that so just make him understand what you're doing and if he still want it for free just tell him to fuck off, as simple as that.

@aitkotw lesson learned. I just want to let my steam out. I cannot contain it anymore.

@m1ks you came to right place and I appreciate you for doing that, now you can calm down and make appropriate decision. 👍🏻

@aitkotw

Yeah. You know it is hard for me to reject them thats why I ask them for a payment in much lower price but then they just said thank you and they are just joking. Oh well.... arrgghhhhhh

@busuu wow! Dafuq is this .....-.-

@busuu

Damn bro. How do you deal with it?

@busuu if there is no contract then just stop maintaining it until he pays the damn money. He can't sue you without a contract

@busuu man this is bad, hope she ended up paying you the remaining amount

@m1ks just curious here. Is the friendship not worth your 3days? Or is this not the first time?

Tell your friends before you start that you want to get money for your work and if in doubt demand 50% upfront.

@LrdShaper this is not the first time. This happen so many times.... and right now I cant contain their crap on me.

@matteodem it is a lesson learned for me regarding for the projects.... second is I can have a contract signing. I think it is much better.

As a professional, you should learn to estimate (more or less) how deep a project can get (specially when it's for a friend) and decline it in those cases. Do not ever start something which you know you won't finish happily.

It's not only your friend's fault, it's also yours for letting them think that it's easy. They are ignorant about your job and that may be understandable; you are not, so you should tell them and let them know before starting anything.

@LrdShaper I think the problem is not only the time but the sacrifice. I mean, I value my friendship more than my job, but i dont pay my friends the money I get from it.

@m1ks then, same as what others have said, learn from this. If it's not as simple and small as they think, let it be known upfront that they cannot charge this to friendship. Heck have a contract so that they know they cannot simply walk away from paying you

!Warn turned a bit ranty

@busuu @m1ks

49% upfront 51% after if they don't pay, you keep the 49 and take it offline store it.
If someone is a "good" friend. But the person only asks never gives his/her services or time when you ask cut them out. they are leeches.
If you know them since you where 5years old great they'll get over you not doing business with them. And if not Fuck m.

Time is more valuable as money, if you deal with someone who doesn't respect the time of other people. Move on life is short don't let it be wasted by "friends" that in reality aren't, there just wasting you're time.

Be aware that alot of people will take advantage of kindness.

So be less kind, make boundaries that are non negotiable.
Serious people respect that, and have boundaries of there own.
The leeches don't they try to over step. And ask for exceptions special treatment.
Fuck m!