Eat something for goodness sake and stop being stupid

Wait you are actually serious

@retoor Not being able to pick a movie is some next level stuff, I don't know about that lol

Some people are indecisive because they want to hide in their little bubble where nothing ever changes as an escape mechanism for past trauma

A friend told me...

@retoor Glow n***ers. They glow in the dark, you can see them

That's high tide for a cheeky #pragma push(fuckyou) or #![alllow(fuck_you)] depending on your lang

It's good though. Because the more food they make the fresher the ingredients will be. Also makes them less motivated to cut ingredient amounts because they're already making a ton of money anyways

@Lensflare I mean even then, unless you're using javascript, I can understand the want for a layer that translates your native classes/objects into sql

The problem is that sometimes you'll get a little more than you've bargained for with these abstractions...

Damn glowies got him 😔

That moment when you don't know if this is serious or a meme...

ORMs are one of those things that sound like a really great idea on paper and then become the biggest pains in the ass imaginable

@Demolishun Hey, at least that's all natural ignorance

@Demolishun MSM does what there sponsors want and I bet china is giving them a lot of money

Also in the comments there are THOUSANDS of bots all praising china and bashing the US. Happens every time, whether it's a "revolutionary" new chinese smart phone or a "revolutionary" new chinese plane

I hecking looove the chinese. Such beautiful slave labor camps 😌

Stop java hate right meow ✋🐈‍⬛

@retoor Don't worry, I'm quite happy with the performance of my Rust

It's not about the size but how you use it, as they say ;)

@ars1 Just vulkan alone is frustrating as shit to learn

And then you want to actually write an efficient renderer...

@retoor But that's why I still, after like 6 years, still *adore* rust

It's not hard because of bullshit like Haskell. Haskell is difficult just so you can jerk off. Rust is hard for a real reason that gives you something. Sure, not everybody likes that. But I kinda do

@retoor Rust is actually very easy to read if you know it

It's just hard to write ;D

@Hazarth Once you go deep it gets really deep into the weeds

Choosing how to upload data, on non-rebar systems with a buffer in the max 256 MB sized BAR memory pool, vs persistently bound

Strategies to batch draw calls. Bindless rendering of all sorts. GPU driven rendering with a compute shader passes generating indirect draw commands. Even just saying fuck it and implementing a software rasterizer in a compute shader which writes pixels out using a 64-bit atomic max (like UE5 nanite)

Really the worst thing about it all is that it isn't hard to find a solution. But for rendering it's all about performance. So there's *always* a better solution to be found, and that's deeply frustrating. You can never relax and pat yourself on the back. Because your solution probably sucks

@retoor From a syntax perspective? I think that's mostly just familiarity bias. Some people don't like Rust because they can't read Rust. Which makes sense! But it's not a valid reason to hate the language, because once you *can* read it, it's not that hard

But from a semantic perspective? Yeah..... Rust is kinda hard. And I don't think you can make something like Rust without it being hard

E.g. the rule that there can only ever be either ONE mutable reference to a value (even across threads!) OR potentially many shared references (which you can only read from). It's a VERY restrictive rule which makes writing complex apps in Rust very complex

But you can't remove that. Because it's necessary to guarentee the things Rust guarentees

@retoor Just wait till you do C++... Whole new universe of "what the actual fuck is this rule" :D

You know in Rust it's insta UB to create a temporary mutable reference from a raw pointer if any other reference could also exist at the same time. Fun! But that's just llvm being dumb :D

C is more relaxed but you maybe also have some UB in your code... It's pretty damn complex

@retoor Not really. Yes, Rust does force you to do it correctly, but you should *also* be doing that in C. Like Mutex, Atomics, etc.

And if you know what you're doing you can easily just use a bit of unsafe and circumvent all that

But for real, answer me this: In a C project with 50k+ LOC would you really write layers of functions returning temporary values which stem from other arguments? Maybe, but that's pretty damn risky, because at some point somebody is gonna screw up

In Rust, you can just do that. For free. References are literally pointers! But the compiler makes sure you can't screw up

@jestdotty Ah I see. Okay but that's just one implementation of solana verifier. Good on them, but I wouldn't say that all of solana is now switching to C

@jestdotty Wat lol

Are they? A few google searches didn't give me any results. And for what it's worth the end product is WASM so the original language doesn't really matter

Even if, I *highly* doubt performance problems would be the reason. General Rust code is about as fast as general C code, and maybe faster once you factor in the defensive programming techniques necessary to not shoot yourself in the foot

Couple that with the fact that Rust also uses llvm as a backend.... Yeah it's pretty much the same

@Hazarth Deepest depths of vulkan programming. Compute shader based software rasterizers included

@retoor For 10 years now as a hobby (and potentially soon as my main income maybe hopefully) :D

You'd think it would get easier with time but somehow it only gets harder the more you know. Kind of like C++ now that I think about it...

@jestdotty Hopefully!

@jestdotty Pain and misery mostly