The Windows operating system is a cancer

More like a very intractable case of haemorrhoids, I'd say.

@donkulator nah it’s total fuckry for mass deployment you might be better off using Linux at this point in the game.

Join us on the Linux/BSD side!

It lags so much, I was shocked to see how much my dad was used to waiting every time. It just responds slow. I'm kicking on a decade old laptop xubuntu. Blazing fast

I just got done fighting some bullshit in Linux that I had to fix with Windows. Basic UI shit. We are standardized on fucking Gnome at work. Like I go to dismount a drive using a file manager. It says device is busy and pops up a message to cancel or disconnect. I hit cancel and it unmounts the drive. This puts the drive in a fucked up state that Windows detects and fixes. How do you fuck up basic UI? I also have some janky shit going on with tracking running programs on the toolbar. Gnome somehow loses track and I have to log out to fix that shit. More basic UI shit. This is the default shit Ubuntu installs. Linux needs to get its shit together.

@retoor I have seen build of cache files for Windows user. Every once in a while I go find out where those files are (never remember) and delete them. It is like a brand new machine. Reminds me of the days of Windows 95 and bloated registries.

@Demolishun > "Like I go to dismount a drive using a file manager."

Likely the linux UI developers could care less about making those functions user-friendly. They would open a command prompt and type in the cryptic regular expression to dismount a drive and make fun of you+me+rest of the world for not knowing the command.

"What morons, must be Window's users....everybody knows the FileManager is broken and they should use 'sudo dsf adk^%4 =6 ~24 <' to dismount a drive...the command is so simple and intuitive."

@PaperTrail I used to be a gung ho Linux user before Linux was cool. Was actually accused of working in a cave. I just got tired of compiling the kernel to support my supposedly unique hardware setup. I know that part has gotten better, but the dropping to console to fix a gui setting is getting old.

Maybe what I should do at work is see if I can install KDE is parallel with Gnome. Then I won't have to fight Gnome buillshit all the time.

@retoor it’s really does make no sense. It basically has to have super computer level components for it to run smoothly and then it’s only for a time. Conversely put a Linux distribution on a computer with 16GB of ram, a SSD, and a relatively good processor and you’ll be set for 10 years

@DreEleven my decade old i5 8Gb laptops runs super smooth with:

- 5 times vs code open

- chrome with 10 tabs

- 5 idle terminals

- Telegram

- Element (matrix chat)

See screenshot (Swap is fucked up because i fucked up with coding smth, but i do not notice in performance):

@retoor Awesome!! When I see stuff like this and hear people saying they have 12 year old computers running Linux like it’s brand new I have to wonder why we are using stable Linux distributions for mass deployment. For example, in pharmacies and medical centers where users would be running mostly web applications and storing docs on a shared drive.

@Demolishun I can understand the issues users would face running a Linux distribution customized to their liking. Before moving to MacOS i was a die hard Linux user too. What I’d like to see is a Linux distribution for mass deployment in fields that need a stable OS that doesn’t shit itself when you least expect it.

@DreEleven the chromebook can still come back. But batteries became so good and hardware so cheap that it kinda killed the "cheap hardware"-model including the amazing Google OS

I wrote a few days ago a whole day on github workspaces. VS studio in browser! You could do heavy projects in your browser. It supports terminal and apt installing. There are no limits.

Also, i found out that you can render your own VS code to the web. It's builtin VS code. So you can run it on your powerfull pc and take your chromebook to the bar where you show off your skills.

Linus torvalds once said that the netbook would be the future for Linux desktop. That that's the way it become popular under desktop users.

I have a beautiful Lenovo C330. Bought it only for design. The battery lasts forever and it's my oldest laptop now. The only survivor. Nothing can break on such thing (except the volume button appearantly)

@DreEleven right now i'm amazed by the OS on my new chromecast. It's just an Android but it works so good on cheap hardware. Ok, I have to admit - could be bit smoother. But it was only 50,- and problably usable for the next 5-7 years or so

@DreEleven And is it the PC desktop market where we will win? I know people without PC and only a phone now. It's the phones you want to dominate

@retoor yeah the chrome book could come back but I feel like Google may have approached the concept the wrong way.

In all honesty they may have been better off building their own open source Linux distribution customized with Google apps running as if they were native and build out a framework for developers to use.

The issue then would be something else Linus spoke of. The fact that to win Linux would have to support the random keyboard from China and the odd printer from Japan. That it would be great for the big ticket items but might feel apart when it comes to niche devices and use cases.

@retoor it’s crazy when you see how smooth Linux derivatives work on minimal hardware.

@retoor yeah it’s gotten to the point where a lot of people don’t really need a full blown computer I mean look at the proliferation of android. One could argue thought that its not a pure Linux distribution and more a derivative.

Ever developed something in Win32?

Once you write a 10k lines WinProc callback (even with abstractions), well you can surelly acknowledge this.

If Valve releases steam OS to the masses and I can properly do UE5 dev in there I would ditch it immediately.
My experience with Linux desktop goes from nightmare fuel to mediocre. And macOS is shit for 3D dev, so I’m not touching that either.
Sadly I have to stick with windows for a while.

But why use a desktop environment? I CAN DO IT ALL FROM BASHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Well, not really, I use perl. ITS EVEN WORSE.

@Demolishun what's stopping you from switching to Plasma or KDE? Even better, choose XFCE! It is so light and quick that it feels like it is running out of thin air

@asgs we have to "test in Gnome". But yeah, I need to see if KDE will live next to Gnome. I mean I think I had it setup on other installations like this.

What's the name for a cancer that kills and outlives it's victims?

@MammaNeedHummus Bill Gates.