do you separate the mechanics and functionality of software from the people in the community?

is there tools you love the functionality of but hate the community of, and vice versa?

were there tools you loved where the community ruined it for you, or tools you hated to use but the community won you over?

companies where you loved the software and hated the people or vice-versa?

People always about community and stuff. I'm the only one not interacting with communities? I'm only involved into ollama and that community is wholesome. The level there is quite low but everyone is threated nicely with their noobii questions. You can imagine how much non-devs there are in an AI community.

devRant community is all I need, good software, good people. Backlog goes a bit slow. Everyone's input gets equally ignored. It's just fair! 😁

The MineCraft forge community and a game dev form I was on (back when I was 14 and 16 respectively) pretty much made me stop dealing with forms. Now I'm almost the same as @retoor.

Funny when I was part of hacking forms they were a lot friendlier, managed to be the top Dragonica private MMO server for a while.

DevRant is probably the first form I have used in ~10 years and is helping not give up on coding so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@BordedDev wow, the same as me. 150cm in height? :P

Based on comments made here relative to other communities I also consider the level of this community good. Everyone here has their own choice of stack but in general it overlaps each other anyway.

I like that this community doesn't have moderation / the need for moderation.

@retoor A bit taller than that, 183 cm. 150 cm is a cute height, I think your head is at my shoulders.

Yeah, I agree about the overlap, the fact most people are mature here is a very welcome change

Also, I don't think you can say that miss hall monitor keeping all the riff-raff spam at bay ;P

@BordedDev I can't parse "Also, I don't think you can say that miss hall monitor keeping all the riff-raff spam at bay ;P" :P Explain to me like i'm five and you're chatGPT.

You see young @retoor when groups of people come together, not everyone is good. Some people want to take advantage of the others, they'll do this by doing things called scams, and they'll aggressively push it also known as spamming.

Now people in the group don't like these scams and spams, and they'll create a moderation system to filter out others that they don't think will fit in. This is what you did with the anti-spam-bot bot army.

A hall monitor is someone who moderates the halls or corridors, just like how your bots check messages to see if they should be on the site and will send them to the principal's office if they aren't allowed. Calling someone who isn't an actual hall monitor a hall monitor is also used as a light tease when they act to stop people who are unwanted.

Also, riff-raff is used to talk dismissively about a group of people as if they are a lower class

And “at bay” means to guard against or limit the reach of something or someone

I was just barely able to squeeze that in the character limit, but TLDR I was just teasing you for saying that there is no moderation but you created a moderation system to remove spammers

@BordedDev I didn't expected to be called a miss since i have an anonymous green dot now and you are relatively new :P Ok, i understood the comment correctly. And i'm older than you I guess, in two days 35 and kicking!

@retoor Eh, I've been a lurker for a lot longer than I've had account (this is my first one), but I started using dev rant again around the time you nuked the old account. Can't say exactly why I assume you're female, I can give you conjecture but in my mind you have a fem voice. Let me know if I'm wrong.

Also happy early Birthday, mine is exactly 2 weeks after yours and yeah you're a bit older than me

females sound lighthearted and emotional (like I like this, that, opinion here, there, light-hearted pitter patter)

if you wanna sound male sound stoic and robotic. facts, cold, dead inside. depression is a bonus. rage and misogyny would be playing on cultural stereotypes

it works as psy ops. conned a cia guy with it once was pretty funny

@jestdotty If I told you people in MMOs thought I was female would you believe me?

Sounds like good fun, maybe a bit too simplistic but for text based interactions probably enough

@BordedDev ye

you come off soft, coy

a lot of dudes kind of sound fem

there's still a difference though. the judgement is somewhat intuitive, I was just putting it into words

I come off male to a lot of people. I'm more aggressive and dead inside. a lot of dudes kind of do the female role though. maybe it was Tumblr and the furry culture or something

@jestdotty guys living long enough in the Netherlands will sound fem at a certain point :P And slowly, they start to look to guys and then..

@jestdotty Haha good. Maybe, it's probably more because I grow up with a single mom, most of my friends being female during good chunks of my upbringing and a disdain for sports. I lean more to the single mom thing + being perceived as female tends to give you bonuses (like free gold) + online censorship for guys online

@retoor isn't that because the water companies can't get all estrogen/birth control out of the water

@BordedDev or because the average girl in NL uses the same amount of makeup as guys. Not sure if that says smth about the girl or guy. Yeah, of course i do know :P Men in NL are not very manly and women not very female. I went working to Ukraine and it had a way bigger contrast. I adapted my style to that since i visited there.

@retoor "Men in NL are not very manly and women not very female"

Yeah I've noticed, even all the way here in the boonies it's a bit of a contrast to what I was used to in Africa (no I have never been mugged but I have "stopped"/caught 2 home invasions) and general service is atrocious. I don't think I'll ever understand a guy wearing makeup, unless you mean stuff like topees.

I guess I'm lucky that PP is a turn off + I want kids

@BordedDev how many? :D

@retoor Between 3 to 5, I do want to make sure I give 'em all enough attention. How many would you want?

@BordedDev one or two. Someone told me never to do just one :p but I raised one for a while and he was happy alone so.. It's also main due attention.

@retoor I've found that there are some life lessons you can only learn from people close to your age. I have 2 step brothers and a half sister, all on my dad's side, but have pretty much grown up as an only child. I don't have much to complain about either, except the lack of good male role model I guess.