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AIs have reasoning models and I haven't been able to find out what that is
but yeah basically they're propaganda boxes and the reasoning is the only useful part. whatever it is. people wanna wave it away when I ask -
retoor24801dWell, the model should be kinda the soul therefor it's not a true model but also pure data reflecting just our opinions / facts.
I have read a book from a guy (professor) with no reasoning skills at all! So much knowledge, so much to tell. All doesn't make sense at all. Believes also every complot theory. Amazing his knowledge about everything. But how can someone be so stupid? He's an intellectual but just not smart or something. For the Dutchies: Marcel Messing is his name. Batshit koekkoek. Impressive. -
Hazarth95921dIt's not intelligence anyone than behavioral trees. They are still just language models, not anything purpose built for thinking. Even their "reasoning" models just work by doing a couple of rounds of generation instead of just one, but It's the same illusion. If you generate coherent human language it will by necesity look inteligent, because It's en emergent property of langauge. The right words in the right order have to make sense whether or not they were ordered by a human that gave it actual thought or whether its a machine that seen a similar input sequence trillions of time and the similarly ordered output fits. Don't forget that humans are pattern oriented, we can see the face of christ in the right baked toast, doesn't mean the toaster knew what it was doing.
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"But is that intelligence?"
no. obviously no. even at the very first glance no.
it's just "machine learning". it's glorified autocomplete on steroids.
also: i'd argue that humans themselves do not posess what you describe as "true intelligence" -
Grumm184620h@tosensei I agree, something created by a human isn't true intelligence. AI cannot create something new, they do not evolve like us.
We had the intelligence of creating tools and still have to move forward in the tech world.
I don't think AI helped to invent the alsm... -
@Grumm we cannot "create something new" either. we also just combine and recombine and variate stuff we have either already seen or hallucinated.
we also just learn from our inputs, with the difference that we have _constant, continuous_ input, and that we had a few million years of evulotionary head-start, while actual AI does not yet exist. -
@tosensei ok mister doesn't listen to the background radiation of the universe to grow his creative neuron packets
Thinking about machine learning and models... without data, there is no model, meaning they are extremely dependent on the data.
But is that intelligence? It seems more like the most basic form of a human that consumes anything it’s given—an indoctrinated, brainwashed slave, in a sense.
True intelligence involves overriding the training through reasoning, raw intellect, intuition, or the ability to question.
If a model is trained solely on the laws of physics and language, can it reason afterward? For example, can it use physics to question the events of 9/11, arguing that the laws of physics do not allow for the free fall of three towers, regardless of the CGI planes shown on TV?
We are intelligent, sentient beings on this planet.
While God is a man-made concept, reality provides us with much evidence of our creation. We are the children of nature, and nature is the first intelligence that gave life to us all.
Do whatever it takes to survive and protect your people.
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