65 days till internet doom...

why doom?
isn't it a good thing to give the user a little bit more control over his data?

If you delete a account your data won't be stored indefinitely as it is done now.

@heyheni do you know what it takes to become fully compliant? You don’t, no one does. Just know that if you’re in breach, expect to pay 4% of the money that passes through your hands, not your profit!

@heyheni The worst part is, John public is clueless. It’s only when it just gets really hard to use software or some products he likes simply don’t exist anymore will it become apparent

@windlessuser What kind of doom, did I miss something?

@PonySlaystation https://cennydd.com/writing/...

@PonySlaystation https://devrant.com/rants/1023967/...

"They have the right to access their personal data held by companies."
"GDPR provides a right to data portability"
"GDPR’s automated decision right requires companies to tell individuals about the processing (what data is used, why it’s used, what effects it might have), to allow people to challenge automated decisions and request human intervention"
"GDPR’s other highlights include an obligation for teams to practice data protection by design and tight stipulations to notify authorities about data breaches. "

i find this awesome!

@heyheni @windlessuser Eventough the changes are huge and may kill some businesses, I think this is needed and justified.

We are constantly being fucked by data miners on the internet. There are companies who know your every move and every detail about you.

This change was long due...

the only thing what would stink are geo blocking websites....
"sorry we don't do business with eu citicens because we are lazy fucks and we suck at life"

@heyheni lazy fucks is a bit of a stretch. So companies may need to do a complete ground up rewrite to deal with it. And 4% of turnover may not be worth it to serve EU folks

@DLMousey louder in the back for folks like him and @linuxxx lol

@windlessuser I find it so funny how many companies over here are going crazy to get this ready now while its been announced to every company four years ago... They had so fucking much time!

But nope I think this is awesome. Giving some data control back to the people :)

@DLMousey There are literally govt agencies here who provide free guiding for this thing and as for where I work its worked out awesome!

@linuxxx it was passed in 2016. It would be fine, but there is no guidance on how to actually become compliant. That is the core of the problem. They are going to wait till it’s enforced, and make examples of several useful companies until we finally get guidelines.

@linuxxx would really really love that support!

@DLMousey @windlessuser In the Netherlands we have "ICT Recht" which can guide companies at request for free :)

I have to agree with @windlessuser and @DLMousey here. As someone having to implement this in my day job first-hand, it’s absolutely brutal, no one truly understands the vague requirements, and this seems like a nanny state at its finest.

I’d much rather see efforts to educate people on keeping their data safe as opposed to forcing companies to comply with a laundry list of ridiculous requirements.

And yeah, I would have to believe many companies will just decide to not serve the EU or significantly cripple their products instead of spend tons of money to comply. It just won’t be worth it in many cases.

I’m all for enhancing privacy, but if there’s one thing I hate more than companies that sell data, it’s politicians getting involved in tech where they literally no nothing.

but if you allow companies to do everything with your data and states having privacy laws from pre internet ages. As a user you don't have a choice what's happening with your data. Then there is nothig to educate. Eat or die. Sure it's not good to have no specific ruleset to adhere to but somewhere you have to start to say no to silicon valleys hypercapitalist techbros with no ethics.

@heyheni I get it, at the same time there should have been a long sit down with the industry and a compromise reached. You can’t screw over Silicon Valley at the expense of the ENTIRE industry! How are self funded 3 man startups supposed to deal with all this? It is as far reaching as your database schema!

@irene @ewpratten thoughts?

@windlessuser the only data that I collect myself on my apps and servers is a little counter that increments every time the app or site is opened.

So from a dev standpoint, it doesn't effect me very much.

From a user standpoint, right now, I don't really have an opinion yet.

I should probably do some more research.

@heyheni that’s what civil lawsuits and class action lawsuits are for, IMO. If a company does things they say they won’t in their privacy policy then they should get sued in civil court by parties that suffered damages. And that’s normally how it works now. I’m sure Facebook will face a class action suit over the latest incident and will end up paying millions.

The last thing we need is government deciding who’s technology is not up-to-par and trying to levy fines when they feel like it.

The most hilarious part about this is I bet a huge amount of government systems all over the world do not meet the same requirements they seek to impose on private companies.

@dfox the Dutch surveillance law @linuxxx has been discussing comes to mind. They are mutually incompatible

Will the EU fine the Dutch government 4% of their turnover - will be a substantial part of GDP