Scared Christians like to say “God doesn't make mistakes” when discussing trans people. Well, you're right: God doesn't make mistakes, so he made me trans to test your ability to love.

You don't want to hear this now. But God appeared to me once in person. We had a talk. He explained to me that he doesn't exist. That made me an atheist.

And a good christian would accept that. Wouldn't judge & shit. Still, will think it's funny :D

that's equating yourself and your free will actions with a godly being though, effectively calling your free will god's will

by the same logic everyone else's free will would also be God's will and nobody could complain about anything, and have to view everything as a passive object with no control over itself and can't be blamed for any actions that transpire in the world, which technically is objectification and how everyone doesn't wanna be viewed because then you're irrelevant and nothing you do in existence matters to anybody else because God takes the credit and not you

i wonder why christianity is so focused on fear.

Using an imaginary magic creator to prove a point… 🤦‍♂️

An elementary school teacher was giving a drawing class to a group of six-year-old children. At the back of the classroom sat a little girl who normally didn’t pay much attention in school. In the drawing class she did. For more than twenty minutes, the girl sat with her arms curled around her paper, totally absorbed in what she was doing. The teacher found this fascinating. Eventually, she asked the girl what she was drawing. Without looking up, the girl said, “I’m drawing a picture of God.” Surprised, the teacher said, “But nobody knows what God looks like.” The girl said, “They will in a minute.

fun fact: there's two key figures in the bible that are trans.

first case: a male rib transitioning into a whole female body.

second case: a male-read person that is genetically female, due to lack of any male being present during conception (unless you accept the idea of "gods genetic goop" as literal canon)

@tosensei “Jesus was obviously trans, but he wasn't a necrophile, you libtard!”

— Any conservative in 2050

@jestdotty in a religious context, what is the gift of "free will" other than a piece of godliness?

isn't it the whole reason why god supposedly needs to "test" us? if he's all-knowing, there should be no need. that there still is a need shows that the human mind is as ineffable to god, as gods will is to human minds. that "The Divine" is not above us - or at the very least, not by enough that it matters.

@kiki maybe not necrophile - although the whole "three days dead, then alive again" could be interpreted in a necro-erotic fashion - but definitely prone to cannibalism. "drink this wine, for it is my blood" and such.

@tosensei it was a reference to a meme, but I can't seem to find it now

About that free will argument, yeah, I heard that one, and it's compelling. I heard religious people answer with “the reason he tests us is unknowable to us”, and that essentially reduces god to one infinitely small unknowable entity.

@kiki more importantly: it reduced god to an infinitely stupid entity.

@tosensei I advise to not engage with @jestdotty in any kind of conversation if you value your sanity. I learned it the hard way.

@tosensei at first, I was forced to be religious by my excuse of a mother. Then, I was a radical atheist. Then I was ignostic when I realized that even if god made us all, he’s as good as dead/nonexistent if he never intervened later.

There are two kinds of god: god the almighty and god the tinkerer. God the almighty calculated _everything_ beforehand and then stept down because there was nothing else to do. God the tinkerer needed to intervene. I think god the almighty was better, but he’s as good as dead. So, you either believe in tinkerer or in dead.

Now I’m over that, and I validate other people’s religious beliefs if I can. I want to actively spread peace every single day.

@kiki I think you might like the content of the youtube channel "Genetically Modified Skeptic".

He is an atheist who initially was a hardcore Christian, but he is always very respectful when arguing and his main goal is to help people, even if it means to keep them having their believes.

@kiki there many more kinds of god. and depending on how exactly you define it, it can be categorised as one of the following:

* non-existant

* non-relevant (aka "dead" or "doesn't bother")

* evil (aka "it's actually satan who wrote the bible")

* not actually a god after all (missing omnipotence or other divine attributes)

@Lensflare well, it's just a matter of how you handle it.

a metaphor: you can have morbid fun with a rabid wild animal, if it's in a cage and you know you shouldn't put your hand between the bars.

@tosensei despite of what others might think of me, I‘m not interested in making fun of others (or mistreating them as you implied with the animal in the cage).
If I‘m being mean, then it‘s not because I enjoy it but because I honestly think that the other one deserves it.

So, I disagree.

@Lensflare "If I‘m being mean, then it‘s because I honestly think that the other one deserves it."

yeah, same. but that doesn't mean you can't have fun while doing it - or do it by _making fun_

@tosensei idk if I believe in the god test thing. that part I don't know about

but humans seem to be able to effect quantum states, so I would assume our free will is that. and God is physics; everything else outside what your consciousness can do, which seems to be kind of like a democratic vote by all consciousnesses, aka you are a "little bit of God"

@Lensflare ray of sunshine