Day 24 of starving myself to death challenge.
If you want to have an idea of how much I eat per day, google KFC Boxmaster wrap. It's around 700 kcal.
Lifesum says I need 1800 kcal per day.

@retoor I never said I wasn't eating. Read comments under my rants.

This is the only way to actually finish the challenge. When I just straight up fast, it gets harder and harder. Big caloric deficit approach like what I'm doing is sustainable and requires no significant effort. That's just what I need to get rid of 18 kg of excess body fat I have.

@retoor also, bear in mind that you're a short featherweight girl. I'm 175 cm.

@kiki 😁😁 that's not starving 😁

that's roughly the amount of food I used to consume in a week. Definitely not more, prolly less, bcz it was in a form of soup [half a cup every other day and a tad more over weekends]

@retoor yes, it works. Mania worked the same way for me: 95 kg in the beginning, 72 kg by the end. I have no idea why.

@netikras how much weight did you lose?

@retoor I don't agree that the manic brain is what burns all that energy — the heat would've physically fried it instantly. But I agree on everything else, as it's exactly what I was feeling. If it's the case, then the depression you feel afterwards shouldn't be treatable with SSRIs because the brain is “broken” and “physically worn out”, and that's indeed what we observe in patients.

@retoor as far as I know, amphetamines don't cure depression. You can feel better doing them while you're in post-mania depression, but I think it will come at the expense of something else. Your brain does need some time to heal properly.

My last such depression lasted 17 months.

@kiki 120kg down to 79. After renutrition maintained at ~84. Birthdays fucked it up, now fighting my way down from 96 w/o anything drastic

@netikras amazing! I never knew you used to weigh that much. I know how hard it is to lose that kind of weight.

About starving though… if I continue the diet I have now, eventually I will lose all body fat, all muscle mass, and then die of malnutrition. You can't cheat physics. I will need to adjust the caloric intake at late stages because losing muscle mass means spending fewer calories, but I will die eventually.

People die of malnutrition, all while eating, all the time, including in hospitals.

I have plenty of time to reconsider, and that's exactly why I've chosen this method. Plus, there is a chance that a slimmer body in the mirror will make me abandon the dying thing altogether.

@retoor it is prescribed, but for ADHD/autism rather than depression. I'm autistic, and oh how I want to get my hands on some Adderall.

@retoor I'm an ex fixie racer. You can tell it by my legs I think

@kiki won't work, sorry :) should I buy a small kebab, I would be set for 2 days. No way I'd eat it all in one take now [before my 'starving to death' I could easily testroy 2x of the big ones]. I can imagine your wrap is smth like that if not smaller.

People die from malnutrition, yes. But that's mostly caused by either poorly balanced nutrition [all-meet, all-carrots, all-X and nothing else] or by metabolic disorders. Or bcz they are actually starving. Your wrap has fats, proteins, veggies and heavy carbs. + your metabolism will find a new balance considering your new eating habbits. You are NOT on a death row :) far from it.

@netikras idk, my physics checks out.

If you're not unusually muscular, then at the age of ~30 you have to be 196 cm tall to maintain the healthy BMI of 22 if you weigh 84 kg. At your current 96 kilos, you have to be 208 cm tall. So yes, your body probably does have enough fat to bail you out in the small kebab scenario.

BMI scale isn't applicable to muscular people. If you're muscular, then those muscles reducing is what feeds you.

According to you, 15 small kebabs should be a month worth of food for you, and you won't even lose weight at all. Add the missing nutrients with supplements and let's race 😁

@netikras wait, wasn't it you who told me you didn't believe that thermodynamics explained weight loss? Then I shared a Thunderf00t video, and you refused to watch it, telling me that “it probably doesn't explain anything”? Either you or Lensflare.

Anyway, here's a time code even: https://youtu.be/56j34WAiZRk?t=238

I highly recommend watching the whole thing. So far no diet worked for me at all, but the one based on thermodynamics did.

@kiki currently I'm overweight and my heart doesn't miss a chance to remind me of this :) my goal is 84 again. It's in the OK bmi range. And my food intake was even lower when I was there.

Idk anything about this video nor have I ever refused to watch smth claiming I know better :)

idk about calcs tho, I don't do them. I don't count cals. I just make sure to get a lil bit of everything with my food. That's perfectly enough.

I started my thing when it struck me that I'm eating as much as I used to when I was a teenager, ie when my body needed all that building material and energy. Now that my body is fully developed and no longer growing, that amount of food is nothing but a habbit. I don't need that much. After reducing my portions significantly and taking time for my body to adjust to them they have become the new norm.

Worked perfectly for me. I can only assume it would work the same for others too.

@retoor my heart is weird. 165–170 is an okay exercise bpm, can support it continuously, and I could do it even while I was 90 kg. Peak bpm is 210, that really feels like pushing it too hard

I have a friend whose peak is 175

@retoor a month ago I had this thing where for several weeks it skipped at least 1 beat every 10 seconds. Soo.. Constant feeling of palpitations, bcz after skipping a beat it has to compensate inotropically and batmotropically. You know the feeling in your chest when something givves you a freaking scare? Imagine feeling that for weeks.

BP is too high. Cardiologist found a condition that will someday be the reason for my heart failure. Not anytime soon tho :) caused by too high bp. Caused by excessive weight and lack of exercise.

Freaking exhausting coughs every morning, caused by exfiltrate in my lungs. Thanks to bp.

Who can help me get my Bitcoin back? || Can I get my money back if I was defrauded? || Can I get my stolen Bitcoin back?

THE BEST SERVICES FOR RECOVERY OF CRYPTOCURRENCY Examine Optimistic Hacker Gaius’s Recovery Recovery of lost cryptocurrency wallets is one of the many services provided by Optimistic Hacker Gaius. Losing access to digital wallets is a major concern for cryptocurrency owners. Device failures, lost passwords, and other technological problems are often the cause of this. Visit Optimistic Hacker Gaius right now to get in touch if you’re in a similar circumstance. Details: 

Homepage;  optimistichackergaius.c o m 

Telegram: t. me/OPTIMISTICHACKERGAIUSS 

WhatsAp: +44 737, 674, 05 69

Mail: support @ optimistichackergaius. co m

Who can help me get my Bitcoin back? || Can I get my money back if I was defrauded? || Can I get my stolen Bitcoin back?

THE BEST SERVICES FOR RECOVERY OF CRYPTOCURRENCY Examine Optimistic Hacker Gaius’s Recovery Recovery of lost cryptocurrency wallets is one of the many services provided by Optimistic Hacker Gaius. Losing access to digital wallets is a major concern for cryptocurrency owners. Device failures, lost passwords, and other technological problems are often the cause of this. Visit Optimistic Hacker Gaius right now to get in touch if you’re in a similar circumstance. Details: 

Homepage;  optimistichackergaius.c o m 

Telegram: t. me/OPTIMISTICHACKERGAIUSS 

WhatsAp: +44 737, 674, 05 69

Mail: support @ optimistichackergaius. co m

@brownthoma oh no

@retoor they target rants with a lot of comments

@tosensei -18 kg is just a checkpoint, not an ultimate goal. There is no “starting eating like before again”.