Who needs BDSM when we have comms channels' outages in the middle of a PROD release.

Then again, who in his right mind uses Telegram for company comms....

yea onsite on nothing idiot.

We use slack. It sucks ass

we've been using discord...

Telegram!! 😬

Telegram is good for comms because it’s fast, familiar and convenient. calls are free and unlimited. Way better than teams and slack. Ideally you want some self hosted chat like matrix and calls thing like jitsi, but maintaining that is such a hassle

@kiki

fast...? it's a hit and miss. Sometimes messages appear instantly, other times -- a colleague has to ping me in Slack that he wrote me a message in TG 5 minutes ago, and only after another minute or two that message appears in TG (yes, after refreshing does not appear either). Calls sometimes are freaking glitchy; just y-day I had calls with 5-7 second delays between me saying smth and another person receiving my words. I'm on a 300mbps optic line, so should not be an internet issue. Aaaand y-day TG was ECONNTIMEDOUT'ing for *teen minutes during a prod release.

convenient? the concept of channels and groups is still smth I can't wrap my head around. Tapping instead of long-pressing to act on a message seems counter-intuitive

calls unlimited? Calls do not work on web version with free plan, so I MUST use an app, which means either spinning a separate dedicated browser on my laptop OR reconnecting headphones to my phone.

@kiki

Another note on convenience -- sure, it's VERY convenient when I want to reply to a message that was written ~6mo ago, I hit reply, write text and send it and in the chat it appears as if I replied to a completely random another person's message. Tried to repeat -- same thing.

Sure, it's very convenient when TG is online in multiple devices simultaneously and you leave a draft in one of them; then delete it in another device and write a new message and after x seconds your new text disappears is replaced with that draft. Probably synced from other devices...

Sure, it's very convenient when you send 1 message and it's sent as 3-5 copies

Sure, it's very convenient when there are NO THREADS!!!! So no way to contextualize conversations on a particular topic in a channel

@kiki

Sure, it's very convenient when markdown is always broken -- inserting several long codeblocks one after another, with normal text (captions) in between, making all the text randomly monospaced, somewhere codeblocked. When edited -- some ``` tags are missing, others are in wrong places. Placing them in correct positions only yields in another combination of random rendered text formatting Never in smth expected, consistent. And more often than not some characters leak outside the codeblock...

@netikras so I’m the telegram’s test subject now too huh, not just apple’s… I get better telegram app than everyone else, apparently. None of the problems you’ve mentioned had ever happened to me. I’m using tg for 10 years now. Threads though… I hate when people use threads. I don’t have threads in face-to-face conversation, so I never use them in slack. Learn to speak one subject at a time.

Groups are just chat rooms. Channels are just twitter feeds.

Discord over here, as well.

!A fan of it, though.

You know, self hosted snek, that's stable. You know a self hosted snek is able to run in a few lines of code? Git clone, docker compose up and production ready? Wauw.