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Never heard of that psu. Maybe spend a bit more on that since psu is the component that makes every other component work (or not work).
Also, depending on prices, faster speed ram might be worth it for additional performance. Ryzen likes faster ram (check benchmarks). -
@electrineer the psu is from the brand bequiet!.
A well known German company. -
@Artemix tbh I was thinking about the same.
I kept struggling if I shouldn't buy from Nvidia because of incompability with Linux.
I asked a friend of mine who is more familiar with building PCs than me for an advice. He told me that I should avoid AMD video cards and rather buy from nvidia. But he told me tjat the processors of AMD are awesome. -
@-ANGRY-CLIENT- Okay, PURE POWER sounds like a dodgy brand. 😁
300W is also not enough if you want to upgrade gpu to something more powerhungry. I think it may be enough for your current setup, though (but not overkill). -
@electrineer I have a total wattage of 159.3.
The PSU's efficiency is more than 80 percent. 20/80=0.25.
Let us say I have a total of 160, because I like integers :).
160 W *1.25=200 W.
By that I mean that I would have picked a 200 W Psu, but just to double check it, I added 100 to the 200.
The GPU consumes 75 W.
CPU = 65 W
RAM=4W
SSD=5.3W (if actively used)
HDD=10W -
I have a AMD CPU and GPU and I'm running Windows. Not the greatest combination. I'd say go for Nvidia if you're running Windows, AMD otherwise.
Nice setup to me. Maybe better cooling for overclocking. (Water cooling?) I'm not a overclocking fan though. -
RudeJake1017yThe first time I build my PC I bought every best component that was in the local shop, which resulted a very expensive PC, and it cost about 3000$ it was and six core phenom, dual 6970, 16gb ddr 3, ssd, 900 w psu etc. And it lasted for me 7 years.
About half a year ago I upgraded it to a fx 8350 8 core,r9 390x ,32 gb drr 3 and it cost me about 350$ because it was second hand, and it works great.
So don't waste your money on new hardware, try to find something used, and try to find a bit older hardware and not the top new one. -
300W may be enough. It also depends on how they calculate it. It's split to different voltage rails in some specified way. Also, you can't calculate the power draw of your components easily. For example, the TDP of your CPU does not equal power consumption. And you should also take into account the efficiency of the power delivery of your mobo. There are psu calculators which can give you some numbers to follow.
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@FunkDelegate I am more of a Windows guy who has done a few projects in Linux distros.
I will probably dual boot Arch and Win10. -
@electrineer let us say... I buy myself a 500W psu.
The TDP is about 200 W. Would that be a safe investment? -
@FunkDelegate I am not planning on overclocking it. But that might change in the future tho.
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@electrineer the psu calculators are giving me a shit ton of head aches lmao
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@-ANGRY-CLIENT- I'd say go for Nvidia then. The AMD drivers are sometimes driving me crazy.
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Rohr7357ywhy not 16gb RAM? I mean, it depends of what are you planing to do with it, but 16 GB should not cost to much any more and this is one of the things you can not have enough these days (sure, 64+ would be an overkill ^^)
also, did you calculated all the power consumptions of the components? calculate with the Max values as these are the peaks you want to cover.
300W seems a bit tight ... you do better when having a PSU that runs not on 80-100% load.
the rest seems fairly chosen! :) -
@Rohr 16 gb of ram is a little bit too expensive.
With this build I am at 908 EUR. -
Rohr7357y@-ANGRY-CLIENT- oh I see... damn budgets. :( then maybe it is worth to go with some cheaper memory? ddr4 and 2.4ghz are expensive ...
my network access us a bit limited atm so I can't check myself - sorry :p
but even if you are fine with 8gb, you really should rubble check the power consumption and the PSU !
as this would defeat your whole investment in a worse case. -
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/...
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (€151.29 @ Alternate)
Motherboard: MSI - X370 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard (€103.89 @ Alternate)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€68.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (€76.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€39.68 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Low Profile Video Card (€166.97 @ Alza)
Case: Aerocool - V3X Advance (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€31.45 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: FSP Group - HEXA+ 500W ATX Power Supply (€45.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (€14.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor: Samsung - T24B350ND 24.0" 1920x1080 Monitor (€59.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €758.95 -
Skayo88597yNot an expert but if you have such a great video card and cpu, you should at least take 16GB RAM.
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@Dropkick500 but HDD costs way less. It is a budget problem.
@Skayo same thing here. -
zankar20757y1050 Ti is a very capable card and will chew through pretty much anything you throw at it at 1080p med/high.
What I would change tho is the psu. 300W might be just barely enough to power that, you might want to spend some extra and go for at least a 500w psu. If not else for future upgrades to perhaps a pair of 1070s when they will br dort cheap because of a mining market flood ;) -
zankar20757y@Dropkick500 interesting :) i always considered hdd's to be much more reliable as ssd's as they have no limit to r/w cycles while ssd's do.
I hever had a drive fail on me either way :) -
A few thoughts on this, how good it is depends on your use case, do you want to play games? Just write code? Do video editing? Something else? The SSD is excellent regardless, excellent performance for the price. The video card... Well if you only want to play simple games not a big deal, I personally want max graphics and high FPS so I recommend 1060 minimum and really encourage people who are big into gaming to go 1080 or 1080 ti if they can afford it. RAM might be a little low, 16 gigs is now minimum for my use cases but I keep a lot of tabs open all the time and like to run lots of apps. For PSU I have no idea about that brand, just realize PSU is not something to cheap out on, I would recommend Corsair or EVGA, probably 500 watts minimum. New AMD CPUs are very strong for multi threaded workloads, still behind Intel on single thread performance especially while overclocked but the gap is closing.
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@asinglenoob I want a GPU that is able to run the new games very smoothly. But the thing is the price plus the power consumption.
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@Haxk20 it is most probably due to not being compatible with the Linux kernel, isn't it?
Can you recommend me a gpu then? -
Why would any AMD GPU do? AMD can't even compete with Nvidia this product generation? The Vega bit has to be a joke right? That product line is a complete flop. At launch when prices were low enough it was OK competition on some stuff, at this point a Vega 56 (a card that was at best trading blows with a 1070) costs more than a 1080 which is faster, quieter, and uses less power, AMD cards this generation have been pretty disappointing honestly aside from some of the lower end and mid-range stuff, upper end Vega stuff is kind of a joke when you compare pricing.
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@-ANGRY-CLIENT- yeah GPUs are still expensive to some degree and even without the crypto mining spending $400 or more on a GPU is a lot for sure. Also the thing about thermal paste isn't really important. The 2700 comes with it's own cooler and will have thermal paste pre applied which will be fine for most use cases and won't fry the chip or anything crazy like that one guy is saying.
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@asinglenoob I read some reviews. And watched comparision videos about the rx 480 and the gtx 1060. I am quite impressed on this AMD gpu.
But I am not sure about that either. -
@asinglenoob a friend of mine told me that the gtx 1050 ti is better than the 1060. It costs less and is about the same Performance he says.
What do you say to this? -
@-ANGRY-CLIENT- OK so RX 480 is a pretty solid card, trades blows with the 1060 (assuming you can find either for around old prices). AMD runs into trouble on the high and mid high end especially this generation because they just aren't quite "there" they got it close but in most games they trail Nvidia and cost significantly more (again this is high end). RX480 is solid definitely consider it although if I recall 1060 6GB outperforms it in some instances. The 1050 ti can do fairly well at 1080p medium to high settings but the 1060 is significantly faster and provides you with some mild future proofing (should be good for another 2 years or so for 1080p 60 fps high to medium settings as time goes on). I have a 1070 in my main rig and play at 2k 144hz and usually have to lower some settings to get 144fps consistently. I also have a 1060 6gig laptop with a 1080p panel and can run most games at 60+ FPS with a mix of high and medium settings.
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@-ANGRY-CLIENT- For a bit of reference I've been building PCs for over a decade now and have alternated between ATI (back before AMD bought them), AMD, and Nvidia for GPUs and Intel and AMD for CPUs. I try to buy whatever will give me the most raw power for gaming and work for the price each time within my budget so that's why I scoffed at the other mention of buying high end AMD GPUs due to their inferior price to performance vs Nvidia at the moment. Also I don't want to push you into spending more than you have budget for either, I tell people if they have the cash get the best go for 1080ti and best Intel or AMD CPU they can get for gaming but I also understand being on a budget and have had many great gaming experiences on mid and low range gear over the years. Also you are building a strong foundation with this computer to allow for future upgrades so one option is to buy a 1050 Ti or RX 480 or something like that and upgrade a year or two down the road.
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@asinglenoob the rx 480 consumes 150 W Max. The 1060 consumes alot as well.
That is a no-go.
Comparing rx 560 to 1050 ti rn -
Damn. I am struggling with the choice of the processor now.
Choice 1: Ryzen 5 1600
Choice 2: Ryzen 7 2700 -
If possible, get the better cpu.
The only thing I see wrong with the config is the ram...
Nowadays I'd go for 16 GB -
@FMashiro EVEN BETTER.
I posted an ad on eBay.
My first client came at me with an unopened 2700x for about half of the original price.
OMG I could explode hahaha! -
Rohr7357y@-ANGRY-CLIENT- awesome!!! congrats. just hope this is no fraud ...
sometimes waiting and research pays up :) -
@Rohr btw. someone offered me the gpu for 100 euro. Original price is about 200 euro.
Am I in heaven? :) -
Rohr7357y@-ANGRY-CLIENT- haha ... cool :) lucky you ;) hope the GPU is still alright ... that boosts you budget a lot!
hope that this works out well for you!
this gives you space to recalculate the PSU and RAM. -
The gpu seller turned out to be a scammer haha.
I hope that the cpu seller is not a scammer. -
Rohr7357y2 lucky shots might have be too much ;P but good that you were able to identify him as a scammer...
hope you have more lick with the CPU guy
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I am building a PC for my first time and thought about every step more than twice. This is going to be my build:
Processor: AMD Ryzen™ 7 2700
Mainboard: X370
RAM: Corsair DIMM 8 GB DDR4-2400
Video card: Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
SSD: Samsung 960 EVO 250 GB
HDD: Seagate ST1000DM010 1 TB
PSU: PURE POWER 10 | 300W
Case: Aerocool Cylon RGB Midi-Tower - black
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