Have you been forced into a futureless role you hate?

I motivated @jestdotty recently and she posted about it :p maybe she can tell you smth :p

@retoor That sounds interesting!

Yeah when I was made to implement a complicated feature in Angular.

Does working in a sub-contracting company count?

@retoor RAAAGHHH WHY AM I HERE

HOW DO I AVOID COMING BACK HERE IN THE FUTURE

PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTIONS INTENSIFY

I find it weird when people want me to care about my future with them. the best future I could hope for is you get everything you would benefit from from me, and pay me a lot of money for it so we can both separate our ways proud we had encountered the other

but now I sound like a simp and I honestly didn't expect that to come out

when people ask me future questions at jobs though it's confusing. like, why would I care about a title. I also barely know you. how am I supposed to know what the future is? have you given me a list of possibilities? nope. and then eventually when I found out what "typical career paths" are it just seems so sad

I work so I can live. it makes no sense to like... view life like such a static staircase. how am I supposed to know what I'll do next? I'll just choose the best available option to me at all times. perhaps your interview question should be about the spirit that decides what would be the best available option to me -- like personality traits

... the funny thing about career paths and my inability to answer that question is in college people made a big deal about MBTI and I always scored INTJ which is the type that plans everything

people talking about goals and plans always throws me off because it's not how I do them -- their ways feel like a farce where I'm not even sure they're serious
I have a probabilistic space. I know myself. it's not like, "at 30 I will be a senior manager" or some shit. what even is that. it's sad

the best plans are vague directional pulls. you gotta know yourself, and you gotta have input from what's possible in the world, and then you gotta have chemistry happen where you encounter it so you can take the path

you can have "quests", like "eventually I'll do more math cuz it's cool"

but my life plans are like -- I want to have this much money, I want to create these sorts of softwares IN PRIVATE AND NOT FOR A COMPANY THOUGH. and neither of those things feel like any of their business.

/words

@jestdotty There's a misconception about INTJs. I have always consistently scored one, even the tests that are paid for, done by professional psychometrists, and even though I prefer having a bunch of plans for any particular scenario, and if none of them work out, it is what it is. Not gonna cry about it.

It's silly to plan things so meticulously that there's no room for change, because things change constantly. You'll set yourself up for failure if you do. I planned on a bunch of stuff 10 years ago and only some of them came to fruition. It doesn't bother me anymore, I've gathered enough experience to stop being autistic about "there are only these paths and deviating from them will end in a total dumpster fire." I am not computer.

Such rigidity in mindset and future-thinking is dangerous. We're not oracles, we cannot intuit the future with such precision. And that's why I think there's such a misconception about INTJs. It helps to develop your extraverted sensing.

@BordedDev Yeah, I'd say so. That does suck. Any role that makes you feel like you hate your life and want to do something else asap asap asap.

@jestdotty Set the timer to another reality in the DeLorean. Doc will greet you. Great Scott!

@jestdotty That's a good philosophical thought and I think they ask it for a combination of both politics and just because it's a standard question. Thinking back what other people said, it probably has to do with liability and money boolsheet where they won't have to lift up their butt and do effort to get someone new or avoid getting whined at by their superiors and meeting targets blah blah blah biznees.

You know you don't fit their mold. You know you are different, so be different and be you, of course. Craft your own future. A static path is a thought of the past and even businesses know that now. You steer your life, not others.

Life is supposed to be exciting, exploring the new adventures in the sea of life. Sail forth and discover! Pioneer! All these boring business people make me sick. Good on you, going dynamic!

@jestdotty I'm INTJ-T lmao. The planner: so at 2:45 we'll take the bus and we'll arrive at 3:10 and then at 3:15 we'll take the train to arrive at 3:45.

They just want to fake it and belong. Probabilistic space is probably the most 'realistic' one (insofar what is reality).

Senior manager: person who received the title either through sheer time passing by, cronyism or promotion. What do they do? Classically I would say they manage three things: scope, time, money. They're just a helicopter that feel big about themselves and delegate wherever possible to avoid doing work themselves. They're just the connectors between business and developers. Allocate projects, smooch talk, reply to e-mails, throw in a big word or two in meetings. It's usually the real people that do the real work, sadly.

Knowing yourself is indeed paramount. Chemistry, so important! How can people forget this so often. I also like the idea of making life into a game. lol. Learned new language to medium proficiency. +200 EXP. Let's go meet Rinoa in the flower fields.

Calculate life costs without accounting for inflation: roughly 15 - 25 years of work. Must find shorter ways! lol. Yes, we are software developers because we like to create, not because we like to 'offer our services'. lmao

@CaptainRant yeah I can smell the INTJ which is why I mentioned it

talk too much, plan too much, strategize too much

and then also irrationally like listening to other people about more of that random nonsense lol

@jestdotty I talk too much, huh? ;p lol

@int32

I had to learn the hard way, but now I live by this quote:

"No plan survives contact with the enemy".

So don't sweat it, try to prepare as best as you can, but accept that shit is just not gonna go your way and wing it to the best of your ability.

@CaptainRant hmm well not exactly but it's one of the obvious signs. kinda speech-like rants as a normal modus operandi

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