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    Ohh yeah... I've been stuck in sysops for years after originally doing webdev (pre anything but jQuery), and the last few years I have been trying to get back in it and I must say that the tooling alone needed to do anything remotely "modern" non-vanilla is a regular clusterfuck of cobbled together desperate attempts at handling the browsers, fixing CSS, optimizing pre-HTTP2 sites and testing...

    Having said that, it does work, most of the time, and it's getting somewhat better with tiols like create-react-app, but sheesh... God ol' times... 😎
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