“Get Linux, they’ve said. You don’t have to restart after the update, they’ve said”

Maybe I’m stupid, or Ubuntu Budgie sucks, but every time after tiny update, the system says I need to reboot. Just like Windows!

@2lazy2debug Even for freaking Firefox?!

That's an Ubuntu problem. Not a Linux one. I've never had any issues like that on the distro I'm currently using, which is Zorin OS.

@oudalally Well I have been using Linux on my laptop and Windows 10 on desktop for the last year. Without any formats (although I’ve used other distros much earlier). I’ve met both sides very well.
Windows is far from being perfect, neither does Linux. I love how you can modify every single bit of Ubuntu, and I love how easily you can install and find great software. I hate how big trouble it was to make Unity, Omnisharp and IntelliSense running on Linux, and I hate how inconsistent Windows design and structure is.

The biggest issue for me is lack of software that I use almost every day on Windows - like Visual Studio IDE. And now I’ll be moving out from my country and I will not have a access to my Windows machine for next 2 to 3 weeks. I don’t know if I should install Windows 10 just for now on the laptop.

That's a myth. While you can use ksplice, invisible restarts, and restarting services it's easier and less error prone to just do a hard reboot

@athlon What type of IDE do you need for your stack? My biggest issue with Linux was loosing visual studio too.

I ended up using JetBrains Rider as a C# replacement until I ended up switching my focus to Java development, but there are solid alternatives to VS.

They ask, you don't. :)

At least it's not forced.
On KDE Manjaro it doesn't tell u to reboot but I do it because I feel it's better.

That’s weird, I’ve had restarts but only with kernel updates.

Hopefully the reboot doesn’t take ages like Windows does after an update. I’ve never run linux desktop long enough for there to be any updates.

Only time I reboot my servers are when there’s a kernel upgrade, or I did some tweaking on the firmware for something.

@linuxxx
Ubuntu updates its kernel very often

@athlon
Install ubuntu-livepatch , you dont have to restart it then

@Linux Can you not choose to stick to an older kernel, at least in LTS versions?

I have not rebooted my Arch home server since Arch was originally released, and I barely ever reboot my Mint desktop. I only had to upgrade the kernel for Ryzen chipset support.

I really like the Mint update manager, nothing ever goes wrong, it doesn't do anything you don't want to, there's just a little icon in the tray when there are updates available. And you can filter them by priority level.

@bittersweet
Not sure actually!
I use the linux-libre kernel thou, so I do restart my desktop atleast once a week. Well, I actually turn of my PC so I dont spend too much time there.

Never had these issues. Using Xubuntu and arch linux. Maybe it's a distro problem not whole linux?

Depends on what's being updated. Usually when the kernel, C library or init (systemd) get upgraded, you need to reboot. For anything else like applications and services, usually restarting said applications or restarting the service in systemctl (often done by the package manager for you) suffices without needing a reboot.

Also as mentioned before you can update but defer reboots for as long as you want and the system remains somewhat stable (for security reasons you should reboot every now and then, or patch the running kernel when updates come but nobody's forcing you). On my mail servers which run Ubuntu 16.04 Server I usually reboot once per month.. which apparently is right about now - 29 days of uptime there.

@oudalally VM? On laptop with second gen i7 and 4 GB of RAM? Running Visual Studio?

Kubuntu user here. This must be a thing with regular Ubuntu because I'm rarely asked to reboot

I've only ever had to restart when I upgrade the kernel. Even recompiling and applying kernel modules do not require a restart

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