For the ppl who don't use arch.. What arch you waiting for? xD

I see a fellow opera user, I press like

@pionell I see a fellow Arch user, I press ++

That's too bad to be good even because it's so bad. Sorry.

@Haxk20 Awesome!! :D

Arch is overrated :/

@garret yeah I've already fucked up my arch system a few times to where it wouldnt boot xD I learned my lesson finally and just use something like timeshift now.

I'm waiting for a Linux desktop distro that isn't a steaming pile of shit.

@codechimp you mixed it up with apple products

elementary OS satisfies all my needs 😍

I've been an arch user for about 5 years now. Started out wanting to be ultra configuration heavy with Openbox, then moved on to i3 and that other one.

Then I moved onto KDE after I've had enough of trying to figure out how to make font look nice. I still run i3 though when I'm working every now and then.

The community is helpful. Can be rude, but I've found it helpful. Of course, that just means having to do a bit of digging yourself when you run into issues.

For ROS to be supported by it and it never will be. 🤷‍♀️

@hasu have you checked the wiki? (Says everyone in the arch community xD)

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.ph...

I'm waiting for Arch to become stable. Pacman -Syu is a gamble which might take hours to recover from.

Arch is great for customized setups, but horrible for productivity. Plus I like having similar systems on both server and desktop: So Debian/Mint for life.

@bittersweet yeah I would agree on the productivity part, especially using arch bleeding kernel. Mostly the reason I decided to use linux-lts. Definitely makes a more stable system.

For the day when I’ll have half a day to do nothing but try to figure it out. Besides I’m very okay with Ubuntu Budgie.

@konicm8ker no and tbh I don't care much.
We had a project and one guy tried to make ROS run on his arch. Yes some of it is supported but by far not all that we need. He wasted 3 months on this and gave up in the end.
So no, thank you.
It's also a pain to generally set up everything we need from ROS on a new os anyway so if I can avoid it, I will.

Why should I swap my OS for something I know will have conflicts with our working environment?i would waste my time on OS issues instead of the work I have to do. Doesn't seem to make much sense to me.
Also you Arch fanboys are starting to behave like apple fanboys. Instead of accepting that everyone has different needs and usecases and therefore uses a different os you keep on saying "but Arch is better cause bleep".
Good for you that you like it. But stop trying to rub that into everyones faces. We hae reasons for using different OS. Deal with it.

@hasu that's perfectly fine. I love arch and I'm not trying to push it on anyone. I just have really enjoyed it and wanted to share as well as make a bad joke xD Personally, I love all kinds of operating systems, distros, etc. I'm just currently into arch, just like I used to be into apple, windows or whatever I happened to take interest in.

@konicm8ker xD sorry for overreacting a bit. That guy was also telling us how great Arch is but it didn't work out for him I this project I the end. It was just getting annoying.
Oh well. To each their own.

@hasu it's no problem lol. I think I mostly love arch for the customization but yeah when it comes to production, arch is not the best solution as you never know when something will break, be fixed or even supported xD

@konicm8ker I think that's part of the issue for us. We are working on research code so it is unstable af by default. So adding an unstable os would be death to any patience and nerves whatsoever. x.x

@hasu what do you use to run ROS, if I may ask? I've been wanting to start using it for a while now.

@RememberMe Ubuntu 16.04. Come over to the ROS side. muahhahah.

Or do you want detailed description on what we do and what ROS packages we run and whatfor etc.?

@hasu no, that's enough, thanks!
Already running Ubuntu 16.04 on a different machine, should be okay then. Hooray for Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04, the two distros with the best compatibility with almost everything, ever.

I wouldn't recommend running arch on a server at work or anything. That's just crazy lol

I have to say that over the last five years I've only twice had issues with updates and they weren't major. Stability has been fine for me.

Boils down to what stacks you run on I guess and I use it more like a PC and not a long running server running various daemons and shit.

@FuzzyMyztiq yeah for production that would be a horrible choice xD I personally use ubuntu server for my business server as its so much easier to configure and takes a lot of the headaches away. I do also have a local lamp server on arch for development testing which works super great :)

It was advertised to me like: it is minimalistic and you have to add everything yourself. While this offers a lot of customizability, one also have to put a lot of time into it.
Appart from certain packadges not being supported by arch, my other argument is that I'm lazy, I like comfort, and I like an easy setup with which I dont have to bother for a long time. There is currently no point for me to get arch.
Also my work requiers ubuntu anyway.