My god... Just started out with Visual Studio learning Visual Basic... Coming from Debian + Vim with C, C++ and Python. How can you even use this thing?!

Visual Basic or Visual Studio?

@Hultan70 Visual Studio... I can learn VB, but ive been in Terminals all the time...

Personally I love Visual Studio... I kind of dislike Visual Basic though... What is it with VS that you don't like?

Answer: you switch to C# before it's too late.

why dont u use c#?

answer: you dont

i had the same shock when i started up vi in linux couldnt do anything 🙃

i use VS a lot

@Hultan70 I click SPACE and it randomly generates 6 lines of code i dont want. I want to commit something and have to search for 10 Minutes flat, to find the right menu for this. I want to create an empty Python project, nope. Only IOT or Web projects possible. I want to open the very same project i created on my Linux box and loaded it onto github, nope it cant edit or execute without a solution, which i have to sync to github. It crashes or hangs often.

@vortexman100 use pycharm for python its free and nicer and lighter than VS

cant imagine using vi as a dev environment so i can understand where you are coming from. great rant :)

that's what we call a learning curve. once used to it you'll probably find that visual studio is one of the best IDE's ever.

I think VS is more fun than a lot of other IDE's. Just have to get used to it.

@CodeMasterAlex Yes, especially when you consider that it can handle 10-20 different languages, win/web/mobile/etc, managed & unmanaged code, database projects etc...

I can say the say thing but the other way around.

@CodeMasterAlex VS plus ReSharper! Best combination.

@Yeah69 I use resharper but not a big fan of it as I never got used to the way it provides code completion and suggestions. In addition, it sometimes also suggests refactorings that look valid but actually break things. However I do think it is a good tool and can help a lot especially when a dev is not experienced.

if only it could support symfony and php in general as good as phpstorm does, it would be my only ide

@CodeMasterAlex of course there are rare cases where the refactorings of ReSharper may make an error. Because the developers of ReSharper are no gods, who can consider every of countless possibilities. But if that happens I always could just revert it with a single Ctrl+Z. But with ReSharper you can save a lot of time if the refactorings succeed, which is almost the whole time.