I learned some fun things today!

Fun fact! A lot of things rely on python!
Fun fact! Python relys on a lot of things!
Fun fact! Updating just python and nothing else causes your entire fucking arch to break! ... Wait that's not fun. Shit!

FML.

One of the many ridiculously easy ways to fuck up your system!

@irene @davenall yea I'm aware. I tried to do it the real way but a dependency error occurred "no packages upgraded" so I was like "ehh, I'll track that down later. Do a real update. But I need python3 right now, so I'll do that first real quick, finish this task and then debugging."

Turns out debugging happened sooner than I thought. Immediately actually.

@Charon92 yea but they aren't compatible entirely. Python2 was fine and I needed specifically python3 which was a bit outdated.

@deadPix3l Isn't python3 available directly as "python" in the Package Manager?

Or is it different for me on Manjaro?

Why "python3" specifically?

@JohnScott I believe so. Some (most) distros "python is python2, but on arch "python" is python3.

What doesn't change is that python2 and python3 are always available under those names. So I just like to be explicit to prevent confusion

@deadPix3l Seems a bit excessive as far as I can tell.

Because when I need to pip install dependencies. I usually end up having to install pip.

And when my code doesn't work I usually end up having to run python cli.

And then I read which version it is.

And then if be destro decides the default is python2. I have to install pip2 for python2 and then install pip3 for python3.

And only after that can I install my pip dependencies.

And then I update pip2 and pip3 just for good measure.

I never update python, the headache is impossible to handle it! XD

Isn't that why you should use pip-env or conda, ...?

@JohnScott I'll be honest I couldn't follow that.

Both versions are good. It's just easier to not worry about which is the default on a given system, especially since I move systems a lot! It's just easier to think "I need this feature, that's a python3 feature/ that feature worked differently on python2/this script has print statements with parens. So I'll run pythonX"

Rather than "this is a python 3 script. Python! Wait didn't work. Dafuq? Python -v. Oh wrong version. Python3. Cool works."

Just seems unnecessary.

@wholl0p I've been wanting to learn that but it wasn't covered in my Windows based Python Class

@deadPix3l Meh, fair enough.