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So a friend of mine ran a Tor Exit node at home for a few month.
He upgraded to gigabit so he was able to push 950Mbit/s quite nicely. He has the oldest Tor Relay (11 years) and was the 2nd fastest exit node.

But he was sadly forced to remove the exit policy, because the police and some other government agencies knocked on his door today.

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  • 11
    WTF? Since when is that illegal?
    Politic Prosecution...
  • 25
    @GyroGearloose well, if you are the exit node and someone is requesting illegal content. You are the one serving it.
  • 10
    @GyroGearloose
    Tor is widely used to spread viruses, malware, and other shit.
  • 15
    @irene
    Running a Exit node is not, but some of the stuff an Exit node brings is,, sadly :/
  • 13
  • 4
    Did they say what did they find?! 🤔
  • 5
    Oh. A swede (same here) and the sam excellent ISP.

    Being an exit node has allways seemed a bit to risky
  • 7
    Soo, blame the infrastructure for what the users do with it?

    Btw, this is what Facebook is being blames for and no one bats an eye.
  • 4
    @p1ERRson

    Ja det är ganska trist, :/
  • 2
  • 2
    @mundo03 the police etc is a bit more pragmatic sometimes. To make an analogy - letting someone record bieber-songs in your basement (or making meth)
  • 3
    @sladuled

    He just showed them what he did, they understood directly
  • 4
    @p1ERRson yeah I understand, but that analogy is wrong.

    It is more like renting that basement and someone ends up making meth there.

    Now, imagine you rent that basement in germany but you like in Japan and have no physical control over it, would they stilk blame you?
  • 2
    @mundo03 you don't rent it and you are (well, if you run it in your home) on the same location.

    You can go down into this basement and say... Wtf, dudes, play music

    Or, check the traffic that leaves your tor node
  • 5
    @p1ERRson ok,
    But your basement is on a neighborhood a city are they going to to get some heat?

    your node needs more infra too your ISP, are they going to get some blame too?

    Blame should get to who shat, not where the shit happened.

    Anyway, we will get no where, I am going to go eat something.
  • 0
    Now thats fucked up and sad.
  • 1
    @Linux so what exactly made it illegal and what was the exit policy before?
  • 3
    @JoshBent
    It is not illegal. But all the malicious traffic coming from one is quite bad
  • 0
    @Linux well that's for sure but I'd be still interested in details you've mentioned about certain functions making it illegal and a certain exit policy too.
  • 5
    @JoshBent

    Well, as I said - running a Exit Node is not illegal at all.

    But a Exit Node WILL generate illegal traffic.

    Bruteforce, distribution of malware, viruses (as I said before in this thread) and so on.
  • 1
    @irene yes, if you host a proxy it's actually the same. However tor is used alot for illegal activities, drugs, weapons, underage shit..
  • 5
    @Traser
    Tor is actually mostly used by people that really need it, like in China, Russia, Belarus, Saudi Arabia and so on.
  • 3
    @Linux Sorry my bad, the media brainwashed me about it I think :)
  • 5
    @Traser
    Yes it is kinda sad, you are far from alone :/
  • 2
    You could have argued asking if they went also to your ISP office and asked about TOR traffic... Imo you're not the one to blame of other people wrongdoings.
  • 2
    @h4xx3r well you probably signed a contract with the ISP stating that you will not use their service for illegal activities.

    Like if you lease a car, you are responsible for your actions and not the lease company.
  • 1
    @Traser @Linux Can you confirm from your contact? 🤔
  • 3
    @irene It would if you let everyone sign a contract that uses your TOR exit node, but that's not the case. Let's say that I lent you my phone for a week, we can sign a contract that if you break it you have to pay for it. But if we don't then I'll be the one that has to pay it. :/

    Anyway, this is how I see it :) maybe some lawyer is laughing out loud now and wants to slap me in the face.
  • 0
    @h4xx3r If I had time to read that damn long TOS :D
  • 2
    @irene, In that case, you would still deliver an "As is" illegal product (content in this case).

    btw. I just saw the new rant about this case and it seems like the ISP gave green light to host the exit node. So maybe it's not so bad after all!
  • 1
    @irene True, but the exit node is the first one to pull the content from the server. But I get your point, my brain is confused now :/
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