Reddit stupid robots. The less unique you are, the more upvotes you het. Confirmation bias stuff. Unique view on things is not appreciated at all. I feel more rated on my behavior than anything else. Walk the line or something. The up / downvote culture from dR is so much better / social.

I could generate reddit with a LLM.

But also, the usernames, most of them are not something fun and creative but just pure shit. You should not be allowed on the internet if you can't imagine a fun username.

Maybe a lot is just whimsical stuff.

Yup, same on youtube and probably most other big social media crap that I don’t have the interest to participate in.

It’s like the harbingers of the dead internet. The few humans that remain are so boring and conforming that they are almost indistinguishable from LLMs.
Those who don’t conform are automatically erased by the woke internet police.

@Lensflare one 100% agree. People with main target for upvotes will replicate too, they will never give a true opinion and thus no contribution.

But how so has devRant a so much nicer up and downvote culture? It's impressive. So free. No opinion is cancelled here in general. Devrant has real discussion and maintaining respect.

@whimsical I think a big reason why devRant is better is because its so much smaller. And because its smaller everybody can see and read every rant, so these filter bubbles that don't allow for other opinions can't form. On dR you also have to tolerate the things you don't typically like

I've been thinking about making a social media where people get secretely assigned to little invisible "groups" (maybe based on rough location?) and the feed then also shows them posts from that group with a higher likelihood

So you always have some natural diversity of opinion. I think it also *really* helps if you often see the same person. I don't like ostream but I've talked to him enough that I don't hate him as a person anymore (he's just a little "special" :P ), but if you always talk with strangers you tend to be less nice

@12bitfloat Yeah, I think what people don't seem to understand that "diversity" is not good if it's massive. If you allow all people somewhere and you get a noise of 11 billion opinions you're not really getting anything of value anymore... In fact it seems diversity is erased the more people are involved...

Humans really seem to work best in simulated villages and small communities. Even your typical "hate crimes" break down in those sizes. No one cares who you are or what you do if everyone knows each other closely. Sure you will get temporary xenophobia with new additions, especially if those new additions are too different from your group (which is why lurking used to be a thing on the internet) but unless the community grows beyond some critical mass it's likely to end up stable

@12bitfloat what would interface be like? I like reddit as a software tho. If I was able to find members, I would create my own reddit. But these days it's done with marketing firms. Users are bought practically.

@Hazarth thing about diversity, it's already there. Promoting something like a mindset means the diversity there is, is not accepted. The whole diversity mindset is very not diverse, it's against diversity. It's more generalization.

@whimsical I haven't thought too much about it :P

The users are really the problem; if you don't have any nobody will use it and then nobody will join :/

@12bitfloat oh for sure! That's also the case of devRant. Many people consider it too small so it stays small. It's like many people say devRant is dead. But how long are we saying this and how many hours we spent on it? The community of dR is it's power but the size is just not OK for people. Especially, if you care about it reputation, yeah devrant does not have much to offer. Maybe it's a good thing. You see often a new user posting a meme and never coming back bevause it wasn't enough upvotes for him :p If a new user starts with a meme, I know enough.

@Hazarth interesting thoughts. I think there is much truth in them.

social ladder for a month

you get assigned to a random group of 30 users

your posts show up to them

you stay together for a month

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I think the issue is people just become an amorphous blob. humans are supposed to maintain context

ladder can also be different lengths. so weekly ladder, yearly ladder. and the group can have upvotes and downvotes so you can tell the culture in these groups

could be a fun experiment. I ain't doing it

I think we simply lost intimacy of having consistent groups. ofc exposure to ideas you disagree with also gives you... hmm oddly enough "strength" and confidence I guess? like you just grow the necessary mental structures to accept opinions even if you don't agree with them, which then makes you more empathetic and interested in people. otherwise everyone is a lonely dopamine addict which is gay

@jestdotty seretonine addicts are way cooler. We do stuff.

I just had a comment that went quite far in the minutes and got completely recovered to +4. That's something I really did not expect. I thought that many people keep downvoting if you were in the minus already. The post was a joke about slapping people with a ruler like back in the day or an IBM workstation.

Interesting usernames, you say?

0. https://devrant.molodetz.nl/preview... ,

1. https://devrant.molodetz.nl/preview... .

Courtesy of your friendly neighborhood snek.

@Hazarth Good point. A fish can make a disturbance in a puddle, but not a sea.

A good idea can propagate through devRant, but not Reddit.

> I could generate reddit with a LLM.

Do it. Grab it all, train a model, generate a thousand years of reddit.

@antigermanist just wait a few years and it will be like that

@D-4got10-01 cool. I once made a devrant username generator based on existing ones. I just checked and couldn't find. Should have been in my gist molodetz.

@antigermanist @Lensflare I tried to do they with bots on the now broken site rant.molodetz.nl actually but was like meh. People don't want a new devRant and the people who want to chat are on snek anyway. So, that's OK by me. Changing snek into something dr like would cost the current uses prolly and I end up with empty site. Still, it could've been so beautiful. Have full time to work on it. No animo.

I Steer clear from major communities in reddit, most of my usage is because it's still a good place to get specific information and general responses in some very niche topics, but everything there must be taken with a good heavy pinch of salt

reddits popularity comes from regular old social media truths: people like to be outraged and like to give their out opinions freely... like most social media, this part is pretty useless.

but for specifics like lets say, discussing about raising a specific type of brocolli, it has good spots

@jonathands I want a plant with the taste of broccoli and the THC content of cannabis.

Do you think I can find a reddit sub for that?

@whimsical 'random-name' https://retoor.molodetz.nl/retoor/... .

@D-4got10-01 haha, that is https://random.molodetz.nl where my spam and anti spam bots get their names from but they're not very devrant-y.

I had a friend who once said that all usernames should just be your real name ;P

@whimsical Ah, got it. I was fairly close, though...