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Welcome to devrant! And fuck those imbeciles who think they can replace a real dev with AI!
I share your passion for the job! -
just cite the obscene disproportionality between sheer computational cost and quality of output, which to clarify is quite frequently dogshit.
and by "dogshit" i strictly mean go look into boards dedicated to [product] and count the number of posts going something like "why is [product] so stupid are they fucking us in the ass by dumbing it down ??? i am now switching to [product]".
indeed, people are paying good money to be fucked in the ass. dont judge.
folks who cant write, because words are so complicated apparently, think that "proper writing" looks like formal-sounding derivative and utterly mediocre nonsense. [product] checks that box, so there you go.
now transpose it to programming: people who cant code, or more appropriately, people who write supremely jank ass mediocre garbage code...
equation is pretty straightforward, really. its shit, and it looks like what many humans would produce. hot take, it reflects badly on us doesnt it.
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@Liebranca Unfortunately, dogshit is what the majority of consumers / end users appear to want. They go wild for it.
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@afaIk that's the case of all AI haters. Working correctly with AI is a long study so far. Keep learning daily. It's almost as frustrating as learning C decently.
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@Lensflare right? I mean even when i don't work I never stay away from long. Last take home, i just had fun doing it.
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@whimsical chatGPT is a virtual dick sucker powered by some guys in keyna paid 2 dollars a day.
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YourMom10772d@whimsical i never found C to be hard to learn. The pointer stuff wasn't even hard to conceive after I learned a sorting algorithm. Its just pointing to slots of memory. I still don't get why that was hard for people. I learned Pascal first. Is that a reason?
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retoor10902d@YourMom I also did pascal first, pure by not having a c compiler. I did not like pascal. I do agree that pointers are not hard at all but still you have two hours lection purely on pointers in youtube. I think, if you really understand, 10 minutes is enough. IF you can talk two hours about it, you don't understand it alright yourself i guess.
But i consider C programming more discipline related that skill related. Like there are amazing python devs, but still they just can't do C while they're able to make great applications. And take all that poor rust devs for example :( Working on a machine fully working in C with a uptime of 300 days without performance issues :( C bad! -
retoor10902d@antigermanist yeah, i've watched, they're called the hidden employees or ghost employees right? Two documentaries i watched.
But my biggest problem is: why is AI so cheap? It's literally worth money. But they're idiots. They're competing eachother to bankrupty instead of making something nice where people actually want to pay for. Take claude, expensive? It's literally worth 50 times that if you know how to use it. EASY. But nooo, they're making losses because the others do that.
Perplexity is a serious part of my life, free for everyone who has paypal. That product is so good, if your marketing can't sell THAT.. WTF....
But being fair - perplexity is just a very expensive product to maintain. It's no joke. YOu have to pay for the searches and stuff. I got 600 deepsearches credit per day. I have no idea if it's literally possible to do that in a day. The labs functionallity is also crazy.
Perplexity could've been made by me, it's a kind of Snek. WHAT IS IT ? :P -
YourMom10772d@retoor I think one thing about pointers is the hidden pointer math going on.
struct{
int a;
int b;
} array[10][10];
So the math would be array[5][4]. So the index ends up being like (5+4*10)*sizeof(struct) or some shit for the pointer calc. If I am thinking about it right. The compiler does this for you so you don't have to think about it. Unless you do assembly. But there is a lot of nicely hidden things like this. -
YourMom10772d@retoor wait, AI chats companies lose money? This sounds like a tactic to build a monopoly on labor. Then jack the price.
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@YourMom I think they could've earned their money on a fair way, but they choose for the big game with no honur. They're all losers imho. The worst kind. Real business people would've made profit. Especially perplexity.
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I think that people who started with langs like Java will have a hard time understanding pointers. It definitely was the case for most of the devs that I knew from uni.
People who started with C/C++ or even assembler will wonder why everybody else finds pointers so difficult to understand.
A language has a huge impact on how you think. This is true for programming languages and natural languages.
That’s why it’s important and beneficial to learn many different languages.
And it‘s not a joke when I say that you can screw your brain using JS, especially if that’s your only language. -
AlgoRythm5030613hIt should be allowed. Just like googling should be allowed. You should be allowed to use all the tools you normally use. It’s not a quiz, it’s an assessment of your skills: toolchain included.
That being said, you should be judged on your AI usage appropriately. Just like if you were to copy and paste your whole interview from Stack Overflow, using AI to generate your entire interview should be a FLUNK. The company wants to evaluate your productivity, yes, but they also want to make sure you can do work without grinding to a halt if AI spits out the wrong answer. Maybe get ahead of the game and give interview questions that AI struggles at or is difficult to solve with AI.
Hating on tools is for perfectionists. Us guys that need to meet deadlines don’t care about tools as much.
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I am a student. I like my tech. I am obsessed with it.
And I've studied hard my entire life thinking it was gonna pay off one day.
2021 rolls around. AI gets wild. I'm not threatened, because I understand it's a natural part of technological progress, and hence inevitable.
I am not against it, but I've always held off on using it until I have no other options.
I've been coding ever since 9, since my dad taught me how to mess with variables in Python on a Raspberry Pi 3B+ hooked up to our TV.
I loved it. Still do.
So when AI came along and people started vibe-coding, I understood why - but I kept my distance. I knew it was a tool, but I also knew becoming over-reliant would cost me big-time in terms of my intellectual development.
I'm in college now.
I have a thing for coding manually. I love building stuff from scratch and I'm good at it. When my peers ask me why I dont use ChatGPT, or Claude, or Perplexity, etc, I tell them that it wont help me interview for a job. Because companies test your skill.
Right?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
THOUGHT WRONG DIDNCHA? GET FUCKED LOSER. MUHUHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA.
COMPANIES ARE STARTING TO ALLOW AI IN INTERVIEWS.
YES! BECAUSE WHY WOULD WE ASK EMPLOYEES TO LEARN SHIT WHEN A MACHINE ALREADY KNOWS ALL?
WHAT DOES IT MEAN IF I SPENT YEARS OF MY LIFE PAINSTAKINGLY BUILDING EACH FUNCTION AND METHOD, ONLY FOR THAT TO BE STOLEN BY AN AI WHO CHARGES YOU MONEY FOR EACH QUERY?
FOR THINGS THAT ARE AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ON THE WEB?
I feel lost now. I've looked forward to college all my life.
I've always been mocked for wanting a desk job because people somehow think it is limiting.
But I loved it. Every moment of it. Because it felt _right_.
This was always happiness to me.
I've always been an extroverted kid with no friends. Don't ask how. I just don't have the humor that people find attractive.
This was my life. This was something I was good at.
And now an algorithm does it all.
A business major who can't even change his screen brightness now has the audacity to mock my work because his LLM can do more than mine.
Fuck y'all. I still love this. I've been doing this all my life, and I'll keep doing it.
And if one of you uneducated, uncultured, smooth-brained fucks remind me ONE MORE TIME that you can "code" better than me just because you can type into a textbox, then BEST BELIEVE I will go Dark Souls on your ass.
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