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@RantSomeWhere to is huge, yes, but most legislators don't know there are dozens of other networks like tor. If they explicitly ban tor, there will be other networks.
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lknk976y@RantSomeWhere do they really think about that? Is there already something ongoing or just theories from some fucked up politicians?
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lknk976y@RantSomeWhere oh damn, haven’t known about this till now. totally ridiculous, i mean yeah there are some criminals on there but you can‘t make it illegal just because of that. But i think this will be the future, government want to control every aspect of our lives. Fortunately, i live in switzerland.
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endor57516ySupport i2p as well! Unlike tor, every user is also a router for everyone else. All nodes are equal => no individual node is a special target (unlike tor relays/exit nodes)
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In America all we hear from our illustrious media overlords is that, in Europe, everyone wants top-down government control of everything, including the Internet, because that’s right and good and woke and moral and nothing bad will ever come of that. Looks like I have more proof now than ever that these are lies. Glad to see some fellow conservative EU thinkers defending free speech, limiting government in every day life, and increasing self-determination of the individual’s right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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@stackodev I wouldn't group the people against article 13 as fellow conservatives.
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@stackodev God bles :')
@electrineer it's fundamentally conservative to restrict government intervention (regardless of political party) -
Root825996y@stackodev
Conservatives in Europe are sadly rare.
Libertarians are even rarer.
However, the US media lying about bloody anything and everything to push their socialist agenda is a given. -
Root825996y@beegC0de I'd say it's more Libertarian than Conservative.
The further away from political center (Libertarian) people are, the more they favor big government controlling everything.
Libertarians view government as a necessary evil, but seek to limit its power as much as possible. By contrast, lefties/socialists/communists (and nazis on the other extreme) all see government as respectively their / their country's savior, and so seek to expand its reach and power. Which is strange, as they still complain the government never does a thing right.
Oversimplification, of course, but it illustrates this point fairly well. -
@lknk @RantSomeWhere
"criminals need to drink water in order to survive, let's ban water as well!" -
On the other hand, I'm operating a tor (non-exit nor entry) node in Germany with a throughput of about 2TB a day *sweat smile*
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@beegC0de restricting government intervention can also be liberalism. In some countries the terms liberal and conservative are even synonymous.
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@electrineer you have a point... Guess party politics have had an influence on my perspectives after all 🤔
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@electrineer exactly. Liberal and conservative, at least in America at its founding, were once synonymous. We now call it classical liberalism, to distinguish it from post-modern leftism. Classical liberalism was rooted in Natural Law and the innate rights of the individual coming from a Higher Power (whatever the individual conceived that Higher Power to be). The only thing was that the Higher Power was perceived to be anything BUT mankind and mankind’s governments (that is, anything but monarchies in the case of America then, and communism, socialism, and fascism in more modern terms).
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Condor324966y@Root meh, conservative, libertarian... If anything I'd argue that government to begin with isn't a very good thing. I mean, just looking at Belgium, we've got such a complicated governmental mess (7 governments!) that collapses every other election period. We're the unfortunate record holders of the longest period without government (589 days). I wonder whether it should still exist at all then, especially when they more often than not are either ignorantly implementing law ideas in a poor manner, or get corrupted.
If anything, I'm an anarchist ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ or maybe a proponent of direct democracy. And something where only the people who know their elbow from their ass about certain subjects are to vote, like technologists on subjects about technology and such. The School of Life put it in the context of a ship's crew. Not any ol' Joe should be manning the ship, only those who are competent to do so should.
Meh. Wishful thinking I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -
Root825996y@Condor I agree 😊
However, the government does need to exist because of the need for military (protecting the country from foreign powers) and some societal programs like police and fire.
As for voting: I absolutely agree. I'd just worry about corruption, as with everything. Whenever you involve people, things go to shit. So. -
@Condor agree that big government sucks. A little luck and a little government are necessary in life, but only fools trust either of them.
I’m against anarchy (if by that you mean “Mad Max”) because it leads to abject objectivist individualism that rejects any kind of voluntary altruism.
I’m also against direct democracy. Athens and many other societies since have found that it’s always two wolves and a lamb voting on what’s for dinner. Never turns out well for the lamb. A republican form of government, however, especially one that does not abridge a person’s right to bear arms, becomes two wolves and a well-armed flock of lambs negotiating what’s on the menu. The lambs won’t eat the wolves, but the wolves will fear the lambs.
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No protesting for me today. Sorry.
if anything happens today however, I will create my own Tor exit node.
And you will be among the first to know about it.
Tor will be the next uncensored web. And I will strive to protect it.
At least that's something I can do from home, regardless of time zones and timing altogether.
I feel like we can't save the internet anymore. But we can create another one.
The darkweb is waiting for you.
It's only the Tor Browser away.
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