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Xoka
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recently, after the Firefox addon controversy, many Firefox users have switched to another browser for a few days or permanently. If you've also switched from Firefox to something else, please let me know why did you choose that browser & if not what is holding you back to Firefox.
For me, I've been using brave since the addon controversy. Brave is okay but still needs a lot of things to improve. I'm also missing the separate address bar and search bar of Firefox and some keyboard shortcuts. what about you? Please comment your opinion. Thanks.

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  • 4
    I stayed with Firefox but with disabled add-on verification (gladly Ubuntu's and Android's Firefox are compiled with making possible to disable). What is keeping me with Firefox that I figured it out to customize it exactly to my needs. While most extensions are available to Chromium based one, some details aren't the same. Firefox is just the last alternative with a truly different engine.
    My Chrome(ium) is not an option for me as both (even Chromium) are too integrated into Google's service. Brave's advertisement concept didn't convince me. Somehow didn't like Opera/Vivaldi. The 'old' Edge is quite nice but was missing some addons and was for Windows only. IE is shit. Epiphany (now Web) used a (security wise) misconfigured OpenSSL on Windows and the Ubuntu packages were always outdated, also it misses a bit customizability.
  • 2
    I switched to chrome before chrome became cool - early beta release kinda guy.

    Before that Firefox always felt sluggish compared to IE and it's alternatives, opera had a thing for rendering pages if it felt like it and chrome was freaking fast to load up and page speed increased too.

    Since then... 🤔almost 10 years later I'm still a chrome user.
  • 0
    @sbiewald Very nicely explained. Thanks
  • 1
    @C0D4 some of my colleagues are also just like you. Early beta users of chrome & still using it
  • 3
    I've switched to Vivaldi. Mozilla has been trying to make FF a Chromium look-alike for years anyway, and then they axed the only unique selling point FF had, the addons. Extensions are way less powerful than addons were.

    So I thought I could as well switch to a Chromium derivate and get rid of Mozilla. Now I have a browser that doesn't look completely different in every release and where I don't have to find ways to revert the latest shit Mozilla did.

    Mozilla are a bunch of super arrogant idiots. When FF was big, they really thought that they could stop listening to their users, and then these dickheads wondered why FF became irrelevant.
  • 5
    I stuck with Firefox. I probably give Mozilla more leeway than I should, but there are some extensions I just can't live without that don't exist for other browsers (TreeStyleTabs being the biggest one). There are a few Chrome add-ons with similar functionality, but they're not quite as good.

    I also have some privacy-related concerns with Chrome. I'd use a Chromium-based browser (such as Vivaldi) but I'm not quite at the point where I'll be willing to quit using Firefox.
  • 1
    @Fast-Nop I completely agree with you. After FF quantum, a lot of addons became incompatible. Though I agree that FF quantum feels a lot snappier but without backward addon supports, a lot of addons became buggier (lastpass for an example) & without addon FF is nothing. Addons the only reason why we power users used to stuck with FF despite Mozillas stupidity. its absolutely Mozillas fault that they don't have a lot of users.

    btw, how is Vivaldi? as far as I know, its not open source. So, I was unsure of giving it a try.
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    @EmberQuill I see. I never really tried the ThreeStyleTabs. But I used use the multi-container addon which is not available in any other browser(I searched a lot for it but couldn't find an alternative)
  • 1
    @Xoka Vivaldi isn't OSS, true. However, FF being OSS doesn't really change anything. The Icewatermoon FF forks aren't going anywhere and have to follow whatever Mozilla is pushing out, just a bit delayed because they use the ESR versions.

    For actual usage, Vivaldi is OK for me and even works on my 9 year old Atom netbook with 2 GB RAM. I like the bookmarks in the sidebar which I even can blend out on small displays.

    Other than that, Vivaldi has a ton of features like gestures and stuff that I never use, but at least, they don't get into the way.
  • 1
    @Fast-Nop I guess, I need to give vivaldi a try. Thanks for the informative comments btw. It was really helpful
  • 0
    I also use Chrome, IE11 and MS Edge.

    Edge is useful for sites that don't like adblockers, as its harder to get infected right ?

    Also, Edge you can set your GPS coordinates and it works, which I couldn't get to work on any of the other browsers..

    Chrome, because some sites and addons just don't work on Firefox..

    IE for sites that just don't work on Firefox or Chrome, or Edge..
  • 1
    @Fast-Nop I actually had to disable gestures when I tried out Vivaldi because I kept triggering them by accident.

    I'm back on FF but if I do end up switching in the future, Vivaldi would probably be my first choice.
  • 0
    I'll,probably try some firefox forks. Icecat, pale moon, etc. Brave has some shady business practices.
  • 0
    I've started using Vivaldi.
  • 1
    I left Firefox a long time ago for Vivaldi (at home) and Opera (at work).

    Vivaldi has the nicer UI and is in many ways like the old Opera (<=12). Opera, on the other hand, tries something new once in a while and supports the touch bar of my MacBook Pro. For me, that improved usability.
    Both are Chromium-based so they eat RAM like there's no tomorrow, but nowadays there just isn't a viable alternative. I wish there was.
  • 1
    @Xoka
    > I agree that FF quantum feels a lot snappier

    I agree, too, though I can't give them much credit for that. A naked Firefox without add-ons was always plenty fast, so killing all extensions _of course_ made it snappy. 🤷‍♂️
  • 0
    @Xoka If I'm not mistaken, the source code of Vivaldi can be accessed. It's not Foss but you can review the source. A lot of people have requested that they should develop in the open (a la github), but they say they need to stay somewhat closed to remain competative with other browsers.
    At least that's the information I gathered.

    I myself prefer brave, because it loads sites incredibly fast. Previously I was a firefox guy, but as extensions started to be available for chromium based browsers I tried other like vivaldi and brave.
    I chose brave because it loads pages the fastest (at least for me) and is developed in the open.
  • 1
    @fuck2code What do you mean by shady business practices? If there is a reason I shouldn't use brave I want to hear it in oder to reconsider my choices.
  • 1
    i switched from chrome to firefox at the start of this year because after i had my laptop stolen i needed to work on hp620 which explained to me very clearly that firefox is about 4 to 8 times less resource-hungry than chrome.

    i've been on an actual computer for a week now, and i kept using firefox, because those months on hp620 made me pretty much hate chrome, and appreciate a degree of SANE coding which results in programs that DON'T assume you've got a dedicated server rack just to run a single instance of them.
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  • 0
    @fuck2code Thank you very much. I knew about this already. And even though it was definitely a major screw up, I think it was not done with mal indent, but rather just a short sited decision.
    Still this is just my belief and not backed up by any factual evidence.
    Definitely something to keep in mind.
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