Learning javascript in 2016

6 javascript frameworks was created while writing this comment.

@maxsimon Plain old html rocks, and on submit button should be email adress where you can send form data.

It's all about vue, react, or angular.

Read this earlier - it is so on the money. The approach of "All available frameworks don't do exactly what I want - I will make a better one!" that has ruled the JS community for so long is killing us. I've no idea how best to approach a green-field JS project, but it'd probably be much simpler than most would recommend a modern web app should be.

@samk The frameworks are not even the issue here but the huge numbers of new npm packages that are made awfull, I think that the problem is in the npm, Its to much easy to publish new package. Every idiot can publish new one.

@anonimus It's certainly part of the problem. We're also expected to build commercial, enterprise-scale apps using bricks made of polystyrene. It's soul destroying to think of the number of hours lost to plugging some gaping hole in some documentation-less open-source module during the project life-cycle because some senior or architect hasn't done their due diligence.

Package managers should test package for tests and docs coverage before developer can publish one. And while browsing for one we should se stats of tests.

Yea fuck you npm!

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Does a package have:

- good performance?
- a well-designed API?
- well-written documentation?
- optional module/ES6 support?
- good compatibility, perhaps even IE support?
- an extensive test suit?
- active maintenance?
- a supportive community?

Only a few libraries/frameworks/packages meet the above criteria.

You should link source to the article. It's amazing read 😂

Just try turning off JavaScript in your browser for 10 minutes today and see how many sites you visit work at all without it.

@ChappIO might wanna share the slack link here . (am on my phone)

Link to original article: https://hackernoon.com/how-it-feels...

"No JavaScript frameworks were created during the writing of this article." :D

@anonimus yeah but it doesn't mean anyone has to use it!

@localdam Oh, I wish it would that easy.

Yesterday we started a slack team to discuss this exact issue. My plan for this "movement" is to raise some awareness about the instability of javascript at the moment and eventually collaborate on a solution for it.

You can join it here: https://revivejs-slack.herokuapp.com/...

@anonimus Looks like something did get you boos :P

@ChappIO I really like what angular-cli project did. They see the issue whith js and they made their own build cli. So you have only src and some config files.

Check it out: https://github.com/angular/...

@vortex The problem with me is that I'm perfectionist. I was developing backend, and then I saw that to be the hot-stuff on the market you must be angular + node developer (fullstack). And when I saw the amount of pressure, on every corner, and to must hack stuff so that they work. I was really looking to quit my job and go back to node. It was crasy! And then finaly some light with angular-cli. Now I have some hope left in my heart for frontend.

js confusion

Which one is the wizard hat

@allanx2000 https://hackernoon.com/how-it-feels...

@girlybrackets thanks, I wrote the comment then realized the was a link in one of the comments

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