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Am I the only one shutting down Windows 10 instead of hibernating?

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  • 7
    When I stop using a computer, I power it off unless I need to SSH back into it at some point.
  • 1
    Yes, I shut it down unless I need to remote into it. So, my desktop at home gets shut down at the end of each day, and my work computer stays up for a week or more between restarts.
  • 0
    I shut down every time because I've yet to run into an instance where I'd need to ssh into or anything like that.

    Whenever I get to that bridge, I'll cross it then lol
  • 2
    My computer has status lights that keep me up at night. Since it's not running any servers or services that people use, I shut it off
  • 2
    I always shut down at night.
  • 0
    I reboot after kernel upgrades, systemd upgrades, and udev upgrades. So pretty often actually. Maybe every 4 days.
  • 0
    I let it running, I need remote access every few days. And reboot it every second week or so, as Windows starts doing strange things when it runs for too long, e.g. remote access stops working sometimes
  • 0
    I work on a laptop. There was a month straight that it hasn't been shut down just sent to sleep. I mostly work on the train while commuting and It's boot time would be easily the quarter of the travel time, so I just send it to sleep.
  • 1
    I usually shut down any OS to reduce crashes that come out of nowhere.
  • 0
    I dont shut down, I dont ssh also. Can’ t be arsed with opening again
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    Also, I like my SSD in my laptop encrypted.
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    I don’t remember when was the last time I shut it down ☹️
  • 2
    I haven't used hybernate in years. Windows used to shit it's self and not boot without a ram eject / power flush.
    Never trusted it again after that.

    I just lock it or turn it off.
  • 1
    I shut down any computer that I don't need for few hours. It got pretty fast with W10 too:

    Win + X
    DD
  • 0
    1. the hibernate option still exists?

    2. i don't even put it to sleep manually anymore, i just leave it running and let it go auto-sleep after 10 minutes of inactivity.
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    (partly because i listen to podcasts at night to help ME fall asleep, so i fall asleep in the middle of a podcast, then it finishes playing, and then 10 minutes afterward, computer falls asleep)
  • 0
    Oh my god.. lol I can’t believe how many people shut the shit down.. lol my one laptop hasn’t be shut off in 6 months and my desktop I haven’t shut down since I bought it, 2 years ago.. same with my servers ...
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    Hibernation is disabled on my work laptop per company policy, supposedly for security reasons.

    I suspend it instead. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT MORE SECURE?

    That said, even if you do a reboot/shutdown, Windows 10 usually starts up from a saved image state to 'boot faster'. I believe there is a registry setting to disable that.
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    @SomeNone i'm not sure what a "suspend" is, but hibernation dumps RAM content on hdd, so theoretically you could take out the drive from hibernated machine and read (unencrypted, i assume) state of its whole ram from it.

    on the other hand, when asleep, the ram content is still only in the ram and you can't exactly disconnect it (in an attempt to read it) without it losing power and thus being wiped...?
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    @Midnigh-shcode If your hibernation file is on an encrypted partition, it should be about as secure as anything else on that partition. However, a laptop put to sleep can just be opened, a malicious USB device connected, and the complete RAM contents read in kernel mode (at the very least, proofs of concept exist for this, and from there to a real exploit is only a small step).
  • 0
    @SomeNone good points, both of them, thanks.
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    @FrodoSwaggins

    I have indeed, though it's been like 17 or 18 years. It was Windows 98. I was really excited when I got it working, but then realized there was literally nothing for me to do on a remote command line on a Windows machine. I've read and heard that the commercial version of SSH works much better on Windows, or did anyway. But I've never tried it.
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    @QuanticoCEO Weird flex, but okay.

    (There is no argument in favour of "hibernating" in your comment.)
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    @QuanticoCEO

    Servers are designed and intended to stay powered on as much as possible, so it would be strange to say you ever shut them down. I hope you keep them patched though.
  • 0
    Shutdown or just leave it on.
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    Guys I just want to remember you that if you didn't especially turn it off, windows closes all apps and goes to sleep when you want to shut down, because of faster start times and they need to be faster than any of the windows versions before which they also market the shit out of. That's also why it starts faster on the same machine.
    You can check that by looking in Taskmanager unser CPU load there is a Field saying the active system time, which doesn't get reset when hibernating.
    And disabling is in power management in system configs I think it's named "fastboot" or sth like that.
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    @hoch10

    Probably not applicable to VMs though, right?
  • 1
    My PC actually stays shut down until I need SSH access.
    In that case, I ssh into my Raspberry Pi to send a Wake-on-LAN packet to it.
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    It looks like it's shut down and it acts like that but it's actually hibernating just because of the few seconds faster start ._. most don't even notice idk why Microsoft did that ...
    Should be possible in VMs too @bahua
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    I just shut down. Clears RAM, prevents issues with pagefile degradation, spares my drives...
  • 1
    @Nanos Longer your system's on, more likely to have a pagefile collision and crash.

    At least...

    if it's being *used*.
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    @Nanos

    A memory address is claimed for use by whatever software. Some poorly written software will not properly relinquish a block of memory for use by other software when it's done, or will announce to the system that it's done when it isn't, and other software may try to claim it, and, "collide" with other software for use of the same piece of memory. This is one use of the word, "collision," in the context of computing: competing use for the same system resources.
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    @Nanos @bahua Also Windows just double-allocates pagefile pages on its own, deadlocks, and dies... because lol what's quality code???
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    I use hibernate if I'm in the middle of something and don't want to have to open everything up again. Particularly when transitioning from working on train to arriving at the office.

    It's quite a nice feeling when I can just shut down.
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