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My favorite pubs beer garden turned into a no smoker area.. FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

I feel your pain :(

Now I need to walk 8 meters from bar entrances to smoke a cigarette or some weed.

@NoToJavaScript I need to walk 10m more to the next pub where they have a smoking beer garden.. but it’s not the same..

@Jilano they rarely do in small towns. Smokers are being discriminated, let's go to the European human rights court! PS. I don't smoke, but I don't like to treat sokers that way.

Degenerates like you belong in a cross. Narcissist like you are the reason why you lot are considered second class cutizens. Why should I breath your second hand smoke?

@aviophile if that’s really your opinion, then you’re a fucking idiot.
Why should I have to look at you then? why do I have to breath in the dirty your car produces just so that YOU can move freely?
Why should OUR environment get destroyed so that YOU can be warm in winter nights?

Oh and get your spelling fixed.

@Jilano beer gardens are usually outside

@just8littleBit ad hominem is weak method of arguing. I dont own a car. You dont have to look at my face if you can control your eyes(which you might fail since you have physcological issues). On the other hand, my nose do not have hepa filters to filter your shit. It is also gas, that fills the room.

@aviophile you don't have to sit in a beer garden if you have legs to walk inside and drink your soy milk there.

@p100sch wow internet tough guy, very scary.

@aviophile I don't like how smokers are treated while providing lots of tax income. If you think it is ok as long as you are able to avoid it then let smokers smoke in outdoor settings and go inside if you don't like it. Else everything you do will be scrutinized in the future because it was OK to do it with people you didn't like.

@p100sch second hand smoking has proven significant negative effect on non smokers. Why should I adjust myself instead of you? You are the perpetrator, not me. Smokers also cause more healthcare cost since it is harmful to society as whole.

@aviophile the word you are looking for is passive smoking, not second hand smoking.

We adjust ourselfs. We go outside or into the smokers room. But you’re saying you want to be in the smokers room as well so everyone should stop to smoke in it???

Sorry, you’re just a moron that tries to prove his point by only considering half of the facts.
You’re on a good way to be the next US president...

First of all, insults show you ran out of arguments.

Second, you are acting in bad faith, trying to invalidate my arguments by attacking my usage of language, which is not related to the core. And secondhand smoking is correct term, along with passive smoking.

https://cdc.gov/tobacco/...

Third, you never said you were going outside or going to smoking room. Now you are trying to put yourself to more defensible position. Maybe you understood you are the bad guy of this story, not the people who had to deal with someone else’s shit

@aviophile read the comments again.

Beer gardens are usually outside or isolated rooms. Mentioned that above.

You started the insults by attacking me personally in your first comment.

I got so used to living in a mostly smoke-free world that I wouldn't ever want to go back to the way things were back when. I basically grew up in a smoke-filled home, and it only changed way after I moved out.

Nowadays I tend to get very angry whenever I am subjected to second-hand smoke. For example when standing at a bus/tram stop (why the fuck do smokers ALWAYS have to stand under the little roof, blowing their fucking smoke onto everyone else looking for some shelter from the weather?), or sitting at a restaurant outside (why the fuck do I need to go inside despite the weather being really nice just because some inconsiderate arse is unable to hold off on smoking until they are out by themselves? Besides, even going inside might not help because if the weather is nice, the door will be open, and if the wind is just right, the smoke will be blown into the place).

Oh, and @just8littleBit, your comparison to car exhaust is a false one: while I agree that, in an ideal world, we would use non-polluting transportation only, and it would most likely improve air quality quite a bit, I find car exhaust much less nauseating than tobacco smoke. Also, current EU regulations ensure that car exhaust is actually much less toxic than tobacco smoke, and I find that I only take issue to the occasional badly tuned (mostly old-ass) diesel lorry expelling insane amounts of soot particles.

@just8littleBit reference to new vegas memes is insult for people. Also beer gardens are not special to smoking people. They are not booze&smoke gardens. They are shared spaces for smokers and non-smokers.

@SomeNone you are singing my song brother. I hate people who are smoking while walking outdide. If you do not stop for 10 sec, you will breath their smoke until he finishes.