I’m a homebody anyway and never want to leave the house. Now I have a valid excuse for not leaving the house. Feeding toxic and unhealthy behaviors? Yes. Is right now the time to care? Probably not. Queue bingeing 12 hours a day of Udemy courses.

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    Almost upvote, then Udemy 😢
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    Wonder if udemy is having a 10.99 covid-19 special 🤔
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    @SortOfTested Could you emphasize? If there’s something wrong with them I’d definitely wanna know before I spend any more money :P
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    @lettiebear they're not bad for finding a decently rated crash course, but you'll want to find a book or consult with the actual documentation to really get an in depth look at what your trying to learn.

    You also have to stay adamant about paying attention to the video, with some of them it's possible to run all the way through them with your brain on autopilot
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    Where to begin

    - Udemy is noted for review exploitation, so the rating system is unreliable
    - The majority of videos are quite literally just reading the docs to you
    - A fair amount of the content that isn't reading docs is plagiarized, poorly
    - None of the material is fact checked or peer reviewed, so you get as much hot sports opinion as fact
    - Udemy assumes no liability for the content, so if a DMCA is file on a course you purchased, there is a risk they will delist it and you'll be out whatever money you spent. That's why they structured their business model as a "marketplace" rather than an "e-learning provider."
    - Few of the videos deal with first principles, so you're left with an assemblage of problem:solution sets to memorize, which is extremely low value.

    In general, video is the slowest consumption medium. You cover material faster going through docs and examples, as well as books. Always learn from first principles, you'll never go wrong and you'll be able to build intuition about what you're doing.
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    @SortOfTested all that is true in general, but there are a few good courses on Udemy, like Ben Tristem's gamedev and 3D courses. They've actually put effort into it and if you do it the way the videos go (with regular practical challenges) you'll learn a lot.
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    @SortOfTested I like to think that it provides me with a guideline but in no way do I believe the “With this course and this course only, you’ll go from zero knowledge about computers to a senior developer!” trope. I typically go through the lessons and then supplement with additional resources, usually MDN, Medium articles, and FCC exercises. But for those of us who don’t have it in the cards to get formal schooling in CS, I think it provides a good curriculum outline to follow, and even compiling additional resources to supplement your learning in some cases.
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    You can definitely learn all of CS without formal schooling. There's not much you get in University aside from access to equipment that isn't readily available otherwise. Would definitely be a better use of the time.

    I'm not sure what not in the cards means, but the knowledge is out there and available.
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    @SortOfTested Not that they outweigh the cost of tuition, but there are a couple more benefits. Mostly when it comes to retaining the vocabulary and underlying theory.

    You can pick all that up from books on your own, but unless its an accredited program, the actual instructed courses available online usual skimp out in those areas, plus there's no consistent social element for you to practice using the jargon in conversation.

    @lettiebear udemy is basically youtube with a slightly different business model. There are a few good courses but they're mixed in with an infinite amount of bad ones and Udemy could care less which ones are which as long as the get a percentage of the purchase.

    The specials aren't a bad deal if you've only got a little time to spend on learning a specific thing, but you could do better at places like coursera or treehouse where you get a broader, more structured program for your money.
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