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preface: I'm fucking exhausted and angry.
Why does everyone assume I know how to do frontend?
Why am I always the design girl?
Why?
You hire me to do backend. STOP GIVING ME FRONTEND DESIGN CRAP. I HATE IT.
AND STOP GODDAMN YELLING AT ME FOR NOT MAKING SOMETHING RESPONSIVE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW.
yes i can learn, but I CAN'T FUCKING PICK UP A SKILL LIKE THAT IN A DAY. Also, I fucking hate it.
STICK IT UP YOUR (min-width: 1400px) ASS.
But seriously, I've spent 13 hours today figuring out completely new things (webpack, susy, express.js, cloudinary, responsive best practices, more webpack) because the boss is in panic-mode (his preferred state) and wants this project released last monday.
guess what? it isn't done.
because i still don't know how to do everything. and ofc there's nobody to ask because there never fucking is.
Seriously, boss-man. hire a fucking designer, and stop being an illiterate sales goon while you're at it. ffs.54 -
Frontend-developer's day is like:
*moving element by 0.0001px to right*:
- *10 new pages appeared*
- *text suddenly disappeared*
- *pictures pierced bottom of page*
- *window.alert("Kill me")*
- *it's night outside the window, but you totally sure a minute ago was a noon*
*moving element back*:
- *no pictures*
- *no text*
- *no moon*
- *10 blank pages*
- *only darkness left in this world...
...and this fcking element, yeah*
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Our designer (and frontender) just saved my ass big time. Had to do a tiny project involving design and frontend so I gave it a try and it looked like crap, deadline in a week. The designer made the most beautiful thing in like two days.
Kudos to all designers for doing what they're good at and ensuring that we, backenders (and cyber security people for that matter), can do our thing without having to worry about knowing how to design stuff and create interfaces because we might hate doing that and sometimes just really suck at it.
Kudos designer guys/girls!8 -
Sometimes I feel frontend development is like ancient magic:
Backend Dev: Oh no, I can't align this DIV properly.
FE Dev: No worries!
* Casts Flexius Boxius on the DIV *
* Div aligns slightly better *
BE Dev: But it's not centered!
FE Dev: No worries!
* Casts Marginis Automaticus! *
* Rolls natural 1 *
* Everything collapses *
* Website is on fire *
* Product owner cries *
FE Dev: No worries!
* Casts Flexius Boxius level 5 on the parent div *
* Everything looks beautiful *
* People are in awe *
FE Dev: You are welcome!
* Adjusts his robe and leaves *9 -
Frontend is as hard as backend
An appreciation post for every single frontend developer out here who can bear customer, project managers and designers nagging
You guys deserve a gold medal23 -
*Interview*
Interviewer: We have an opening. Are you interested to work?
Me: What is that I'll be doing?
I: What technologies and languages do you know?
Me: I know Scala, Java, Spark, Angular, Typescript, blah blah. What is your tech stack?
I: Any experience working on frontend?
Me: Yes. But what do you use for it?
I: Can you work with databases?
Me: I can, on SQL based. What are yours?
I: Can you do big data processing?
Me: I know Spark, if that's what you are asking for. What is it that you actually do?
I: Any experience in cloud development?
Me: Yes. AWS? Azure? GCP?
I: Do you know CI CD?
Me: Excuse me.. I've been asking a lot of questions but you're not paying attention to what I'm asking. Can you please answer the questions I asked.
I: Yes. Go ahead.
Me: What will be my position?
I: A full stack developer.
Me: What technologies do you use in your project?
I: We use all the latest tech.
Me: Like?
I: All latest tech.
Me: You mentioned big data processing?
I: Yes. Processing data from DB and generating reports.
Me: what do you use for that?
I: Java.
Me: Are you planning to rebuild it using Spark or something and deploy in the cloud?
I: No we're not rebuilding it. Just some additions to the existing.
Me: Then what's with cloud? Why did you ask for that?
I: Just to know if you're familiar.
Me: So I'll be working with Java. Okay. What do you use for UI?
I: Flash
Me: 🙄
I sat for a couple of minutes contemplating life.
I: Are you willing to join?
Me: No. Not at all. Thankyou for the offer.5 -
Fuck frontend. Writing a new service thingy and while the backend was done in about one fucking hour, I've been working on the frontend for hours now because frontend fucking hates me and that feeling is fucking mutual.
Grrrrrrr. (and respect for the ones who can properly develop nice looking interfaces)13 -
html {
design: responsive;
}
I fucking hate frontend webdeveloping... It was all nice! Vertically aligning items using flexbox etc... But then God said, "let there be cunts who use unsupported browsers!"
FUCKING HELL I HATE IT12 -
"Who the heck is the parent of this child?" -
I ask to myself when a button doesn't position itself relative to its container div as expected..
:/
In the end, it looks as it's supposed to, but the way it's done is just bad
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Got fed up with Wix adverts on Facebook so I hid it. It then asked me why, so, as a Frontend Developer, I said Wix is offensive to me.
Tell me I'm wrong! 😉13 -
*me searching for jobs*
*types in 'junior backend developer'*
First result:
Junior Frontend Developer.
*big facepalm*
Yeah I understand that it might just be some kinda algorithm that filters on words or whatever but the irony was real!13 -
A story of the backend dev. from our client:
"I used !important once now I'm not allowed to do frontend anymore :("17 -
Frontend team : We pushed our code. Please give instructions regarding integration with Backend.
Me : Alright. I'll provide you the API docs and you can continue with integration.
F : But that's your job. No?
Me (didn't want to argue) : I'll look into it. Let me check out the frontend till then.
* Goes on to see the frontend *
I am kidding you not, that moth*rf*ck*r pushed an entire template along with dummy text.
Me : Hey! This doesn't seem right. It's just a template you got off the internet.
F : Yeah! That's what I have to do. To put on the dynamic content from database is your work. Don't put your responsibilities on me!!
Are you f*cking kidding me?! Do your work right or I am reporting you to the team lead!
Meanwhile, team lead : *sips coffee. Disappears for months*
Bastards!7 -
Working with a "senior frontend developer"
HIM: committed this code, and took him 2 weeks before his first commit on our project
var str = ''
if (string == 'String Here') {
str = 'stringhere'
} else if ( string == 'Another String Here') {
str = 'anotherstringhere'
} and so on ...
ME: WTF?
ME: can we do it like this?
ME: str = string.replace(/\s/g, '').toLowerCase()
Maybe he is senior by age :D10 -
Working on the privacy site.
DAMN frontend can be a FUCKING pain in the ass!
I JUST WANT TO GET A SIMPLE BOOTSTRAP PAGE WORKING, IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK FROM A BACKENDER? 😭30 -
This happened just a few meters of me.
IT Guy: What happened sir?
IT Manager: WTF does the variable a4g646g54a6g54a65g654ag546a654g56a?
~awkward silence~
Still curious.2 -
Front end Developers proposal
My 'ATOM' needs your 'ELECTRON'.
I want to 'REACT' with you in all 'ANGULAR' positions
'JS' say yes!!2 -
Me: Hmm, let's check what's the issue with this styles... Seems like nothing special...
*15 minutes later*
Me: Well, now that's just fine, now i'm closin' this one and commitin'...
Wait, what the...?
/* frontend-developer's day rubric. devrant edition */
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My Typical Project
1. Identify common problem
2. Investigate options
3. Come up with clever solution
4. Implement backend solution
5. Get fed up with current frontend
6. Investigate other frontend
7. Realize perpetual chaos in Javascript landscape
8. Lie down in a corner
9. Cry myself to sleep4 -
Would the web be better off, if there was zero frontend scripting? There would be HTML5 video/audio, but zero client side JS.
Browsers wouldn't understand script tags, they wouldn't have javascript engines, and they wouldn't have to worry about new standards and deprecations.
Browsers would be MUCH more secure, and use way less memory and CPU resources.
What would we really be missing?
If you build less bloated pages, you would not really need ajax calls, page reloads would be cheap. Animated menus do not add anything functionally, and could be done using css as well. Complicated webapps... well maybe those should just be desktop/mobile apps.
Pages would contain less annoying elements, no tracking or crypto mining scripts, no mouse tracking, no exploitative spam alerts.
Why don't we just deprecate JS in the browser, completely?
I think it would be worth it.22 -
*Me feeling productive on a day
Today I am going to start working on the complex part of my proect. Spends 1 hour deciding what all technologies to use , how to implement it, which design patterns to use .
Let's do it
*15 min later
Making some tiny css corrections
*3 hrs later
Making some tiny css corrections
*An eternity later
REALISED DIDN'T SET THE SIZE OF THE PARENT CONTAINER TO 100%
So much for thinking about being productive for today :(((5 -
So this backend developer boasted.
"All the controls are in my hands.. you frontend developers are just the puppets of our API's".
Next day i did this:
If (email === '****') {
profilePicture = 'dick.jpg';
}5 -
Sometimes I envy frontend developers because the very nature of their role involves rapid change. Then I remember that backend devs can practically get away with murder and the customer will be none the wiser.2
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Welcome to backend development, when only felow programmers know what you are doing, and fucking frontend guys get all the credit.7
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"Install through npm"
"Install through gulp"
"Install through compiling"
"Install through x"
"Install through y"
WHY CAN'T I JUST SIMPLY INCLUDE THE MOTHERFUCKING THING IN THE HTML LIKE A FUCKING NORMAL PERSON?!
ALL I WANT IS TO INCLUDE A GODDAMN UI FRAMEWORK.
When I just started web development, this stuff was so fucking easy! Why did it become so motherfucking complicated to include simple shit like this?!
All I want is to start programing this motherfucker, not spend 3 hours on compiling CSS and whatnot (because I'd have to learn this bullshit first).
Mother of god, why did this become so fucking obnoxious?
I. JUST. WANT. TO. INCLUDE. TWO. FUCKING. FILES.77 -
Me: I can't get a grasp on frontend and nice interfaces...
Friend: it's actually quite easy:
Rule 1 -Don't reinvent the wheel..
Rule 2 -That does not look like a wheel.
Made my day :D1 -
Boss: Client wants those stockphotos for the frontpage.
Me: ok. Please license them and let me know. I will upload them to the page.
Boss: How does that work then?
Me: you have to buy the five credit package. Here is the link...
Boss: (no response)
...few days later...
Boss: please remember to upload those images...
Me: well ok. Did you buy them?
Boss: isn't that your thing?
Me: I don't understand. You had all the info. You new where to buy them. You knew what images to buy since the client sent the preview versions. What do you need? ...and why didn't you tell me that you were waiting for my input? I was the last one to reply to this conversation.
Boss: i don't want to buy the wrong images.
Me: just buy the ones the client chose.
Boss: I don't want to look up the email he sent them in.
Me: I don't understand. I directly replied to that mail. It is in the same conversation.
Boss: ok.
...day later...
Boss sends me mail with images attached.
Boss: are those the right images?
Me: well yes. Those are the ones the client sent. I don't have more information than you.
(Me looking at the attachments and finding them in the smallest resolution available.)
Me: why did you download the images in the smallest resolution? It does not make any difference in price.
Boss: well I thought they were not needed in a bigger size.
Me: why do you make my options intentionally smaller? I am the guy doing frontend.
..please give me the login info for the stock account so I can download the images in a better resolution.8 -
Modern web frontend is giving me a huge headache...
Gazillion frameworks, css preprocessors, transpilers, task runners, webpack, state management, templating, Rxjs, vector graphics,async,promises, es6,es7,babel,uglifying,minifying,beautifying,modules,dependecy injection....
All this for programming apps that happen to run inside browsers on a protocol which was designed to display simple text pages...
This is insanity. It cannot go on like this for long. I pray for webasm and elm to rescue me from this chaos.
I work now as a fullstack dev as my first job but my next job is definitely going to be backend/native stuff for desktop or mobile. It seems those areas are much less crazy.10 -
Almost all of our back end devs are sick today and our PO kept pinging the dev Slack channel with the same core bug, so I replied with this.
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I'm getting so fucking tired of frontend development...
I still like part of it, but I really hate CSS, browser compatibility, stupid users, dumb requests from product owners and fucking weird designs. And to top it all, it's the frontend team that handles all the pressure when the deadline comes up and the project's late, even if it was the product/design/whatever phase that took too much time.
Being a frontend developer is very stressful and has so many annoyances and I'm getting sick of it.
My company's been promising giving me some backend work because there are some backend-heavy projects coming up and they know I have the skills, but they just keep giving me frontend work. Also, one of our frontend developers is on leave, which means more work for the rest of us.
Why did I ever decided to do frontend development?6 -
Stupid javascript.
Stupid hoisting-oblivious "frontend devs."
Stupid browser-specific javascript behavior.
Stupid thrown-together javascript minifier that literally only strips out whitespace and comments.
Stupid poorly-written javascript spamming my api.
Time to rewrite it. Grumble grumble. Soo not how I wanted to spend my morning-turn-afternoon.
Leading to the last but not least:
Stupid me forgetting javascript's quirks.12 -
Well crap, i need to make a website for this one startup, but im only a backend developer and even more a pentester
I have less graphic skills than a exploding can of paint
No way can i make the site by just writing code, i NEED graphical tools that help generate the frontend side of things/ drag and drop
Why did i offer to do this...
And for no money may i add12 -
Don't you love it when you take a look at a company frontend React code and GraphQL queries and they say you are hacking them? 🤔🤦🏻♂🤣
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Recruiting front end right now… I’m tiered of this BS.
95% of applicants: “hey I don’t understand what you want, but look at my cool, ToDo app in <INSERT ANY framework>”
“Ok, now add a quick search in your todo project”
“Oh wow, it’s like 5 days work lol and should be managed at back end. I Shouldn’t care”.
How HOW these idiots even have a job ?
I’m out of words. I want to scream, pull my own hair and (Weirdly enough) watch a DareDevil movie11 -
Today I continued working on my File Encryption Frontend, nothing functional, yet!
The icons are selfmade, I think at least the folder icon is pretty.
Our programm will have something like a Zip-Explorer feeling too it, but our aim is still encrypting files to the unbreakable point.
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Why do so many companies think that frontend work can be stuffed at the end of the product development right before a release is expected.
And to top it off, expect all things to be working, smooth, animating, responsive, crisp, fast with 100 fucking lighthouse score.
🖕 To everyone who thinks frontend work is meh!, Not real programming and similar. Fuck you!7 -
A discussion about writing tests for frontend applications.
Context: my frontend coworkers don't write tests, at all. Yeah, really. Our testing process is very manual. We test manually when developing. We test manually when reviewing code. After merging, the application is deployed to a staging server and the design team does a QA Sprint. Lots of manual testing and some bugs still crawl by.
So I decided to start pushing my coworkers to start writing tests. One of the reasons I constantly hear them say to not write tests in the frontend is: "It's not worth the time, because design keeps changing, which means we have to take time to fix the tests. Time that we usually don't have."
I've been thinking about this a lot and it seems to me that this is more related to bad tests than to tests in general.
Tests should not break with design changes (small changes at least). They should test funcionality, not how things look. A form should not break if the submit button's style changes, so why should its tests fail? I also think that tests help save time, as they prevent some back and forth because of bugs.
Writing good tests is the hard part. Tests that cover what's really important and aren't frail and break with things that shouldn't break them. What (and how) should we test? And what shouldn't be tested?
Writing them fast is another hard thing. Are you doing it right if they take more time to write than the actual code?
What do you think about this? Do you write tests for your frontend applications? What do you test? How much time do you spend writing tests? What are your testing tools/frameworks?6 -
Love it when you open up a frontend devs project and among some 50 included npm packages for a really simple project you see this
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You a front end dev?
Try sass or less, you will love it,
You will never be able to go back to css
😂
Please up vote after learning16 -
Sorry for the post spam.....
But i had to
devBanner Frontend finally available!
(and it is beautiful as fuck, i used no css, cutting edge tech)
https://cozyplanes.github.io/devBan...
We are looking for a frontend dev and a designer, if interested, join here
https://gitter.im/devBanner/Lobby
Want to contribute to our project?
Come here
https://github.com/cozyplanes/...
bug reports here too13 -
I was a backend dev for pretty much my entire professional career and recently made the switch to fullstack. writing frontend, framework-based code feels like being a total newbie again. It took me an (for me) embarrassingly long time to simply fetch data from the backend, and filter and display it. I hope tomorrow goes easier, but tonight, all my brain is still capable of is playing the tetris melody on repeat.5
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UX: here, build this page.
Me, frontend: alright...
2 weeks later...
UX: build this new page.
Me: ehmm, this is an exact copy of the last one, except it has different spacing and messed up colours, some don't even fit the customer's colour scheme...
UX: yeah, well, do it anyways!
1 week later:
UX: so, the customer didn't like this second page, it will now have to be changed to look like the first...
Me: 😤4 -
Can we agree to from now on do all our sylesheets like this?
Honestly. It takes a bit of work organizing everything but bloody hell is it easy to use.
PS I just started a decent chunk of those #ID's will be replaced it's just to build the UI up.
Also you get a + if you can guess what ui I am trying to recreate. 😂
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"I dont like the way that you splitted your code into multiple small files. Simply put every logic into one controller." - so called "frontend architect" after reviewing a team's Angular code. I dont know what to think.2
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Boss only likes stuff he can see and that looks pretty. Doesn't understand code, servers, containers, DBs, etc. Praise is attributed by something looking nice in the frontend, whether or not it does crazy stuff behind the scenes.
Spent a week working on a project whilst boss was away. Got to about Thursday and thought, oh poop, I've built all this API stuff, but not much frontend. So I panic built frontend screens with no functionality just so I had something to show.
Wish I had another dev to share backend progress with (and code review)...12 -
When the so called "css expert" ask you why you're implementing so many things in @media all and (max-width: 800px) because it "doesn't change anything"
I had to teach him about responsive web design and chrome developer tools mobile emulation...3 -
How Bad I'm at frontend Development: about 3 year ago i accidentally wrote </from> instead of </form> while working on the frontend of a website, everything just went bonkers. Took me 10+ hours to realize my mistake.
In my opinion frontend devs are real hero they have to learn multiple frameworks, and make website respinsive and work on IE at the same time. Idk Why the fuck clients still want their website to work on IE (fuck you Carl, your users are of age group 15-22 they don't even know wtf IE is)
P. S. At that time i didn't knew HTML validators are a thing.6 -
To all frontend webdevs here:
Explain to me how do you cope with all this insane clusterfuckness of frameworks, tools and js libraries.
Why is it so hard for a beginner like me to learn webdev? Android and backend are much more logical and sane. Even Node.js is pretty dope.12 -
Having worked with all the major frontend frameworks. I can finally say that Vue is fking awesome!!! Way better than react and angular.
I hope the one man army continues. Evan You.2 -
I really hate it when I try to be careful with disclosing information of my employer in a rant on Reddit but the CTO who fires me go there and replies in full detail in an attempt to shame you. http://archive.is/sfP00
Because I have bigger balls (or a small brain, depending how you see it) I'll leave the post on but with my response to his comment on my thread as anybody may dig my Reddit account before hiring me for a job.
And yes, he is the same guy I refer in this past rant https://devrant.com/rants/1089376/...
It fucking sucks that the CTO will sleep safe and sound and I can't do much than looking for another job and contribute to FLOSS projects while I build new stuff to improve my skills all this while money is running out. I'm glad I'm living with my parents after this shit hit the fan, less stuff to worry about, but this is not life.13 -
!rant
Today is a happy day.
I just got a job to finance my last year of studies as a frontend dev for two months this summer.
I'll be working as an intern and won't get paid much, but it's still tremendously more than I would've ever made with any other shitty student job.
Best thing is that my best friend works at the same company and we'll be seated next to each other (he also convinced the HR to invite me to the interview, woul've been rejected right away without him).
So basically I am a lucky bastard and they even told me that if I'm doing well they wouldn't hesitate to hire me after my studies if I'd still be interested in a year ❤️
What I'm missing most as a student is to work in front of a computer 8 hours a day. This will be a welcome change and a nice addition to my CV.
Wish me luck! Starting right after my final exams on the 16th 😎
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Today I explained to my wife why my night stand is a mess, and hers is clean and ordered by using the backend/frontend metaphor.
I am the backend, handling bills, bank accounts, taxes, warranties and all the paperwork.
She is my frontend, handling my social interactions.
Now she hates me, but she admitted I'm right.
She still want me to clean my night stand though.4 -
When you start using CSS classes like this: class="fontsize-16 fontweight-700 height-100 text-center button-border padding-2 color-red display-block lineheight-3"1
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A frontend dev asked for my assistance in writing a tricky helper function, told him i'd be back in 5, as I was just heading out the door for a cup of coffee.
Came back a little later, maybe 10 minutes instead of 5, and he says:
"Nevermind, I solved it by installing plugin XYZ v4"
Checked out the codebase for said plugin afterwards, and discovers it's around ~30MB of code, and adds a shit ton of "premium version" ads to the backend.
YOU FUCKING TWATFACE! YOUR LAZY FUCKTRUMPET ASS COULDN'T WAIT 5 MORE MINUTES?!!
I NOW HAVE THE MISFORTUNE OF REWRITING YOUR ABYSMAL DISASTER, OR DEAL WITH THIS PIECE OF SHITWARE..4 -
codepen is the best thing which could happen to frontend development... i tried it out 5 months ago and now it is the most important part of my development process4
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That joy feeling when you are finally rewriting the backend and frontend with GraphQL instead using the fuckin old undocumented REST API who was written by fuckin amateur ex-coworker.
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I don't know which is worse:
1. My project manager telling me that I will have to make a whole project on my own within a month (frontend, backend, etc etc) for our major client and if I make it, we will get a bigger project for a longer period or
2. The colleague next to me being loud (speaking to himself, chewing things) at random intervals.2 -
After doing my first web dev project, I can definitely see why most of you guys prefer backend over frontend.6
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Front-End / Frontend / Front End?
Spider-Man / Batman / Iron Man?
The way you type the word frontend is subconsciously chosen by your superhero.8 -
Oh crap O_o;
I have a deadline in 4 weeks
Things that need to be done:
Responsive website frontend,
Working backend,
Good documentation,
User Dashboard on website
Things that I have skills and time for:
Backend with python and flask - Half Done!
Skills I do not have:
Frontend,
Making anything look good,
Documentation,
Responsive frontend
Also, I'm willingly doing this for no money.
Why do I keep putting myself in situations like this??????
And in some sick and twisted way, I'm also enjoying it in a way11 -
Decided to dive a bit into frontend and discovered vue-js.
Why didn't I know you, back when I contributed to my highschools website?!2 -
Debugging frontend is like searching for a needle in a pile of shit, that someone sold to a shitdigger in another country.4
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Hey guys, I've hit a major snag in my dev life.
My backend/frontend Java project has hit a wall as the material I was using from Udemy on advanced Java programming was boiling down to copy and paste programming without the learning. That doesn't really work for someone with 2 years programming experience but only a good 2 months of Java knowledge. I need to learn not just follow along what's written on a screen. Thankfully I learned to give in about 2 weeks in so I didn't waste a ton of time on it.
Would books be a better option? I self taught C++ mainly from books and preferred that over videos, but when I did C# videos were mostly better than books.
And...I guess I'll open the floodgates to recommendations for other stacks. I like Java and I'd like to keep using it but I know you don't want to get married to a way of doing things. My end goal is to make an E-commerce website that I can show off in interviews about a year from now.
Please be kind, I'm feeling a bit like crap right now. :(
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I suck doing frontend development. I'm slow, and I usually struggle to obtain the results I'm looking for... but today I'm happy because I almost finished the website for one of my side projects:
https://www.avatar-cli.dev
I'm going out of a long depression, and seeing things done is really helping me to improve my mood and have more energy.
By the way, thanks to the https://getzola.org project, it would have been impossible to me without it.
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Damn frontend crap.
The fact that you have to mask all of the disease with processable versions of css, html & js is bad enough, but there are like 6 dialects of each bandaid, and every project has traces of each.
The the design kid tells me to run this grunt script, frontender number two screams "no, dont use grunt, we use gulp! or was it bower? I guess just run it through yeoman, it's easy!", after which the third fucking shitty hipster yells "No that's outdated, just edit the webpack file, and then run yarn install... oh but run npm upgrade --global yarn first"
Did you just fucking tell me to upgrade a fucking package manager with another package manager?
Composer, gem or cargo are not always without problems. But at least us backenders have our fucking shit together. The worst we have to deal with is choosing Python 2 vs 3, or porting some old code so the server can migrate to PHP7.
The next person to tell me they found this awesome tool to manage his other tools... I'll fucking throw your latte all over your wacom tablet.2 -
Just got into a company as a fresher. Have never liked doing frontend (no offence). They are making me do frontend. Now, I'll forever bear the tag of a frontend developer. Can't quit due to money issues. Don't know where life will take me.4
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PouchDB.
It promised full-blown CRDT functionality. So I decided to adopt it.
Disappointment number one: you have to use CouchDB, so your data model is under strict regulations now. Okay.
Disappointment number two: absolutely messed up hack required to restrict users from accessing other users’ data, otherwise you have to store all the user data in single collection. Not the most performant solution.
Disappointment number three: pagination is utter mess. Server-side timestamps are utter mess. ANY server-side logic is utter mess.
Just to set it to work, you need PouchDB itself, websocket adapter (otherwise only three simultaneous syncs), auth adapter (doesn’t work via sockets), which came out fucking large pile of bullshit at the frontend.
Disappointment number four, the final one: auth somehow works but it doesn’t set cookie. I don’t know how to get access.
GitHub user named Wohali, number one CouchDB specialist over there, doesn’t know that either.
It also doesn’t work at Incognito mode, doesn’t work at Firefox at all.
So, if you want to use PouchDB, bear that in mind:
1. CouchDB only
2. No server-side logic
3. Authorization is a mess
4. Error logs are mess too: “ERROR 83929629 broken pipe” means “out of disk space” in Erlang, the CouchDB language.
5. No hosting solutions. No backup solutions, no infrastructure around that at all. You are tied to bare metal VPS and Ansible.
6. Huge pile of bullshit at frontend. Doesn’t work at Incognito mode, doesn’t work at Firefox.8 -
Backend devs (and yes, even full-stack folks) who naively dismiss the nuance of a frontend dev role have clearly never tried to do a really good job at it. Or, don't realize the fullness of the responsibilities, more like.
Frontend devs have to reconcile all the requirements (and sometimes whims) of the following people:
- End Users, obviously
- Desires of Business stakeholders
- Visual Designers
- UX (Yes, it's a different discipline from vis design)
- Fellow frontend devs
- Performance budgets
- Accessibility specialists
- Content Authors (if using a CMS)
And rarely are they ever ALL aligned. Some days, it feels less like development and more like brokering deals and compromises.6 -
So recently moved to a new place. New roommates. Thought lets initiate a talk. Found out one of em is a web developer.
Me: So, what you working on?
Him: Web technologies
Me: oh great...I worked on ReactJS and AngularJS.
Him: Our company uses AngularJS.
Me: So you work on AngularJS, right?
Him: Oh no I don't work on AngularJS...I am a frontend developer...
(Awkward silence)
(Inner me: No shit. Need to find new place.)
Should I tell him?1 -
Out of curiosity for all the front-end web developers, do you normally test to make sure that your websites are accessible to the blind, color-blind etc.. ? (and i'm not just talking about "alt" attributes)
I've been working as a web developer for over 5 years now at several different companies with close to 100 websites and not a single one seemed to have even considered it. The first time it came up was because a client REQUIRED conformance level AA or higher (I had no idea this was even a thing). In my opinion, ensuring that your website is at least somewhat accessible should be an essential step in every project.
If anyone's looking for some tools to make testing easier you can check these out:
- axe - Web Accessibility Testing (chrome extension)
- Accessibility Insights for Web (chrome extension)12 -
Javascript is cool.
But i have studied databases for a few weeks and i have been thrown into the backend.
Java - spring boot - myBatis - postgreSQL.
Its a big change to my react world.
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Yesterday I was reminded by myself why I prefer working on backend instead on frontend. Css is definitely one of the shittiest things I've ever seen especially if you try to overwrite some Css settings if the used cms theme.3
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How do y'all deal with reading other people's code?
Context: was given a frontend project (I'm a frontend dev) that was started and is managed by a backend dev who just started doing frontend.
I want to start from scratch as I don't understand a thing he codes, conventions are all off, and the structure is just weird.6 -
Our agile scrum team has finally shattered into two parts.
On the one hand we have front-end guys.
On the other hand we have backend- /dev-ops guys.
The FE guys don't care about the BE guys business.
They don't join pairworking and only noticing things that went bad, when a Backend guy has caused it.
Goodbye fullstack dev-ops team...
I really dislike that arrogant basterds.
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On the most serious of notes, and i need yall to think hard about this.
What makes you a good developer whether Backend or Frontend or Web or mobile.
What qualities actually make you a good developer?
I mean, we all use google, github, stack overflow etc. So what makes Programmer A better than Programmer B.
and in a more practical sense, ive been coding for two years now and i have deployed an API written in node and an instagram automation tool in PHP (which is down now due to lack of funds), i lack frontend knowldge (but i want to make up for that) and i have projects that when i finish, with my connections can and will blow up in terms of income. now you on the other hand, what makes you better than me?
and lastly, how much code do you have to change from an existing project, lets say from github for you to comfortably say, yes this is mine.8 -
I've been a frontend engineer at 6 companies for the last 10 years. Both big and small companies currently at the largest I've ever worked for. I'm totally over it. Maybe burnt out is the term. I have zero motivation to do any work or coding. I'm not a lazy person. I love working, solving problems, learning new things. I'm just sick of what I do. I used to love following all the newest tech trends, following devs on twitter, checking hacker news and creating side projects. Now I feel like my job has lost all that joy and excitement. I work remote and have been for the past 3 years. I wonder how much of that, not having any social feedback and interaction around the job has attributed to me feeling like this. All the JS frameworks suck. PR reviews, process, requirements; I'm just tired of everything. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, what did you do? Were you able to find the passion for programming again?14
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What's the favourite song of a front-end developer?
...I'm in love with the shape of you. UI UI UI UI.3 -
It's been 1 month in my first dev job.
I'm really happy but there is one problem...
Despite my role as a full stack dev in a fullstack team, I deal with only frontend stuff so far.
I asked to get some backend tasks from my boss, and he said "in due time".
Is it because I'm a junior? Is it normal?5 -
New toy for frontend devs:
OpenType 1.8 Variable Fonts.
1 font file to rule them all. Manipulate on the fly fluidly the font weight via css and javascript.
http://blog.typekit.com/2016/09/...
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First-time goona work on frontend(my worst nightmare).
That too Angular.
That too on a file containing 900 LOC.
That too with no proper naming, variable names x,e, obj.
That too with no comment.
Cant take help as I am the lead(name-sake, small team, I have 6month more experience than others)
I have 2 days(thank god for the weekends).
Fuck...Fuck...I missed writing CLI apps.7 -
I think the reason most people hate frontend these days can be summed up by the fact that the frontend of my fairly simple React webapp is about 850 loc while the entire Express and MongoDB server is a mere 234 loc
God damn frontend is a lot of work these days5 -
I usually don't like frontend but dammit, I'm in love with Less.
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I hate web development
I mean why it has to be everywhere and so important.
I joined college my friend calls 4 days before my quantum physics test. Asks if I wanted to do internship. My reply sure.
( Level of knowledge at that time no idea what API is, what react is but it's just making webpages ) made a nice homepage within 4 hours of YouTube 2 tutorials and 2 developing that. Friend appreciated his manager also liked.
But failed to deliver the complete e-commerce website's frontend.
Comes next, hackathon nothing related to Android specific( I like coding for Android) need webdev in one way or other. One senior asks if want to go together sees my GitHub and rejects politely by my skills ( I would have too).
Went on with my 2 more friends with thought of making an all Android app guys team, next week team breaks. I then got offer from a friend to join with them in web development I agreed now prepare for web development.
Team was rejected internal politics of organizers ( would take no all fresher's team).
Dropped learning webd.
Now started flutter and it feels good and comfortable but stability isn't permanent.
Now seeing GSoC
Sigh...Most requirements are for web , hacktober fest also had things related to web maybe I don't recall. Still thinking about it sigh...
Got selected for college app development team. The head had to be one with excellent webd skills.
Now college provides funding for projects and ideas, prototype requires making prototype. Most easiest thing to work on
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web development.11 -
!rant. Story from my college abt 6 months old.
We had to make projects for our course.
One team made a very nice project. One part of that was mobile no. verification using OTP.
And the student who was supposed to to that, did it by sending the required otp to the frontend page, and when user enters it, validate it using javascript.
The prof got mad about it and the rest of the class couldn't stop laughing.
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Co-worker: Please finish and push your frontend asap, I need that to start working on the backend.
Me: Why aren't you using Postman?
Cw: I don't like it.7 -
Frontend web development is a fucking jungle. I feel like bloody Bear Grylls whenever I come out of my backend cave - shit's overwhelming, yo.2
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Frontend double standards: havind two CSS frameworks on THE SAME FREAKING PROJECT, with arbitrary usage!!!!11one5
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Hi guys, I'm planing to move to the Netherlands(Amsterdam) by the middle/end of this year and I would like to ask for advices, recomendadtions or any info is welcome.
I'm 23 years old living in Spain since 12. Frontend Developer with 2 years experience in Angular, Node.
Also would like to know the salaries range for frontend Developer if someone knows anything.
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Considering that I'm the designer on most projects and work mostly frontend... Well yeah I'm a bad experience for myself from times to times 🤔 but at least I know my tools and web limitations (haven read others rants about ignorant designers).. so.. that's something 🎉
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At a "guided internship".
Task: Develop a complete web application form
Was assigned to a team of 7 where all are "Frontend Developers" who have never heard terms like "bootstrap" or "mobile-first web pages".
That aside, all are seniors in age and qualifications, hence me telling them something to do is "ordering them around". And if I tell them to leave things to me, they be like "No, we wanna contribute and do the Frontend, as these things don't matter, inline css just works fine". 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Why Lord? Just why?4 -
When backend is slow to add fields of data, and product manager is after you, the frontend dev to add the new feature.
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Well, here it is finally, a first preview of the Covey Web UI.
It's powered by CoreUI (the only easy to use admin thing I could find).
If you want to look at the code, be warned: I don't do frontend...
https://github.com/chabad360/covey
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Sometimes I feel like giving my client a Craigslist-frontend website. Saves me shit load of time to pretty up.
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I am a frontend dev but please don’t trust me 100% with responsive, works in every browser, animation heavy, top of the line, UIs.
Also I don’t know how to work with Wordpress.
Also don’t ask me questions about Webpack, Node, or anything related to builds/configs. (I will be happy to google search my answers for you tho)
But I am a frontend dev.5 -
I fucking hate webpack and frontend development so fucking much, why do I have to see my site not loading the bundled JS code on production but being absolutely fine in dev? is like watching my mom being run by a car over and over and over while I try to remember how it all was before she gets run over, FUCKING STOP WEBPACK, I havent sleep but just 4 hours since yesterday, I NEED YOU TO WORK JUST AS YOU DID IN DEV WITHOUT THE PERKS OF HMR FFS, JUST FUCKING DO IT2
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So, I work for a startup, and I'm officially a fullstack guy, but with focus on backend, thusbour front end is bootstrap. We're currently are looking for a ui/ux/frontend person. Since we're a startup it would only be a 20% position an the max amount we could afford (as we're a startup) would be 800.- CHF a month for a freelancing position.
If you're interested, or would know someone, hit me up. We do have an "entry" test/problem and simply select upon that. The website would be https://reviewed.ch9 -
Today’s text chat:
Me walking near the river in the middle of nowhere with a cellphone.
frontend developer:
- I need image from test server. Can you provide me that image ? I need it for my local environment to fix something ( writes details of how to get an image ).
me:
- Can’t you go to test server website and get it by yourself ?
frontend developer:
- But this image is on canvas element.
me:
- Because frontend is drawing in on canvas so go to network tab and get the url.
frontend developer:
- Ah yes I can do that
I have such small talks all the fucking time. They accumulate when I go out to chill during the day.1 -
The more I learn frontend the more I like it. Imagine, actually becoming good at something makes you hate it less! I know, I know, I was shocked too.
Completely unrelated question:
if you have all the mods for the factors of a product, is it possible to derive the factors from the modulus?
(lol you know what this is about).
The product "fingerprinting" I talked about a while back is starting to allow me to find the modulus of factors, and I want to know what I can do with that if anything.3 -
This is my frontend tip of the day.
If you have a frontend that consumes an external API:
1) Retrieve the json responses from devtools
2) Save them in your project as json files (trim the data a bit if it's too long)
3) When starting your app with a special env var like MOCK_DATA, make your app mock the data and use your saved json data instead.
You can associate each response with an url regex.
The package fetch-mock mocks fetch really well, it lets through the urls that don't match anything.
This way you can incrementally add responses.
And voila, you have a mode where you have near instant page loads to test things manually, and you also have mocked data ready for testing eg, cypress. -
Since the issue is within the legacy backend data, this brings us the great opportunity to solve and sanitize the data on the frontend and therefore killing the performance of the application! Sincerely, a manager that doesn't give a shit3
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How I fucking hate those programmers who say they only can do backend stuff because they don't like front-end work... You godamn pussies, as a programmer you have to be able to adapt to a given projects requirements. If you are not able to do that you are not a real developer in my eyes. So grow a pair and the next time you have the chance to do some frontend work take it, maybe there is someone who in return would like to dable in some backend work for once.18
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I'm amazed how our Frontend team are able to consistently break our Vagrant builds, despite them only using Grunt...
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Is it just me or is it just really hard to set up and test frontend JavaScript? 🤔
Karma + Mocha + Chai + whatever
is a pain
And it doesn't look very pretty..3 -
I have a question, but first some background. When I got my first job, it wasn't clear cut what I would do, but I ended up doing frontend. I really liked doing frontend, so I continued doing so and I still do to this day. I even work alongside designers in a design studio, so I feel very much like a frontend developer.
Obviously, the term "frontend" these days implies someone, in some ways, writing a web, mobile or desktop app using javascript. For me, frontend is also about stuff like accessibility, design, code delivery, and understanding the end-users and the designers that may have prototyped something for you.
I have not been active in any other dev communities than this place, but it seems to me like a frontend developer is pretty much the lowest common denominator ( I guess in terms of skills). If I am right, I do not know why, which is why I'm hoping someone could explain.10 -
Lodash, Rimraf, Grunt, Gulp... I'm still not convinced that our frontend guy isn't just playing Pokémon Go all day3
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I'm tasked with a light redesign of our public site and it's a fucking shit show. It's using this old-ass grid system with pixel-based widths and it's just totally fucked and whoever put it together had no clue.
...I keep going back and forth between trying to work around it and unfucking it because, while I'd like it to be unfucked, I don't want to spend all week on this and I hope we toss it all out and do a proper full redesign in the next year or two anyway. -
I have a lot of experience in Frontend development. I feel I am good but I want to be better. Do you all have any tips and/or suggestions that could help me and others in the community?5
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Rookie here in need of help.
Is it possible to become a backend dev within 4 months?
I have been learning frontend on and off for a couple of years because I hate my job as a salesman. But I always imagined myself more as backend developer.20 -
I just created a new file in Android Studio called Auth.js and then wondered why I have a folder Auth with a file js.java inside.
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So I started my frontend framework learning by getting to learn Vue. Now, like, a year later, and after I've got a ton of experience with Vue, having written numerous apps with it and earned some $$$$, I'm learning React. Just because of, yeah, react-native. I feel like a caveman just by writing all that annoying overhead. :/8
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Question to all JS Frontend Devs: What light and performant library can you recommend me today?
I'm a C++ dev who is a bit anxious about performance, load times etc. and before I stuck my nose into vanilla js, maybe there is something better/faster. I'm a total frontend noob, e.g. I heard that html tables aren't a thing anymore and that I should use divs?
My task is quite simple, I want to give the users the ability to press some buttons and drag and drop stuff around instead of modifying the URL per hand :/
So if someone could point me in the right direction, that would be awesome!16 -
Question to the frontend devs: I'm currently trying to optimize part of our JS. How do sourcemaps influence loading/rendering Speed in the Browser?
In the `webpack.config.js` we use uglify as minimizer for js. It has the option `sourceMap` Set to `true`. Now as I understand it, this caused it to Inline a sourcemap inside the JS file (which leads to a slightly bigger file size and thus longer load time for the generated file...).
My Question: should sorcemaps be enabled for prod (minified) files? Why yes, why no? Do they help the browser parse the JS faster?12 -
I once had a heated discussion with another developer over whether AngularJS is backend or frontend. For some reason he believed it's a backend framework.1
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I worked for a month in an ionic app without having any idea about frontend develop cuz my boss needed it quick and now that its done he doesnt even tested it out1
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My Frontend team lead came to me today to show me some "amazing" React component he wrote.
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My stress test the past three months has been writing the same app's frontend first in Blaze/handlebars which was horrible and then in react which was wonderful due to blazes inability to scale, and then on a Vue application which consumed the API from the React app. Im hoping they prefer it to be in Angular, feed me frameworks :D. Just not polymer, anything but polymer. One does not just use polymer and no one wants to watch its ginger creator prance around in a unicorn mask trying to teach me how to properly write my app to be reactive. I shouldnt even have to think that hard about how to make it reactive, thats the point of the framework!
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Is it good time to switch to CSS Grid Layout frameworks such as Blueprint CSS? How is good/bad as compared to Flexbox?6
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I mostly did backend until now but now I am trying to learn js to learn more of frontend programming. I have no problem doing html & css and I am even getting behind js but:
Why do I even need js frameworks?
Can’t I do everything in plain basic js?3 -
Muahahaha!
Stupid canvas! I killed you!
No more anti-aliasing for you! Now it's time for pixel perfect drawings and a finally functioning floodfill algorithm!
I only had to make my own full custom drawing routine. It is not that I had other things to do, right?!
Seriously: Who the heck decided to implement anti-aliasing for a canvas that cannot be deactivated? Who!?
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Do you guys think that the frontend or a javascript developer is an easy job? is less than a backend developer?
let's discuss6 -
Was stuck on a bug, took 2 days still couldnt fix it. Dumped all blame on backend guys. Came out it actually was an API issue 😂
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Newbie frontend guy joined last month right after college. He's my age but never worked before. Wants to "fix" the entire codebase with cool new hippy react features without providing a valid reason to do so. Also, "hey, I don't understand what someone wrote, so let's just change the entire fucking thing so I don't have to put in the effort of understanding real, working code"
What's more annoying is that he won't settle even when being asked to do so by the senior guys.2 -
Just found out about ElectronJS.
Man! My frontend will be so much more good looking compared to my previous experiences with Desktop Apps with tkinter (in Python) or swing, awt (in Java)
... Wondering if it has any DISadvantages over the latter ones 🤔9 -
Webpack? More like Fudgepack 😡
OK sure, I know it's cool to rip on Webpack without taking 5 minutes to understand it, but I really have tried. Every time I want to do anything which used to be trivial with grunt, gulp or brunch, it requires a whole bunch of sorcery and every post I see online around the same topic inevitably ends with something like "that's not modular", "WebPack doesn't work like that", "you're holding your phone wrong" etc. And it's not like I'm someone who is afraid of new or uncomfortable things. I try new languages almost as often as there are new JavaScript fads (OK maybe not THAT often). I use "weird" keywords and experiment with different key maps all the time. I swap my daily window manager on an almost quarterly basis (and xmonad is no picnic as an introduction to Haskell). But what the fuck is it with so many people in positions of influence in the frontend world always taking one step forward, two steps back and an occasional hop sideways when it comes to tooling (and dragging everyone else along with them)?
How did such a turd of a tool become defacto for so many frontend frameworks? Do hard core JavaScripters just really really hate outsiders and want to deter others from their precious as much as possible? Fuck Webpack and fuck everyone responsible for helping it permeate so thoroughly through the software development industry.2 -
So I'm working on a project with another developer and a frontend guy. Now the frontend guy has the lead as the other dev and I can only do our job based on his work. So he had 3 months to deliver us the first part BUT has rarely been in communication. When he does email he just says "designing concept "FOR 3 FUCKING MONTHS" Now we are 1 week before the project is due for delivery and he is saying that he will send us over the concept this FRIDAY!! 3days days before project is due.........................................................................................AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHRBFKDBDKSJRUDISNCFKSORVEOFBFOWBFFKDKWNDB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!2
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I understand that front end frameworks are important when scaling an app/project but it’s not a necessity for small student projects.
Can someone make me understand how a student can make use of the frontend frameworks not just for the sake of learning it but the framework actually being a necessity4 -
!rant
Frontend people, I need your opinion.
I will soon start building the next version of a rather large project's frontend but I am mostly a backend guy.
It is a custom made web application (PHP, Postgres) that handles all business aspects of a shipping company of about 50 people (trucks, truck free space in shipments for new packages, package tracking via gps on the truck, invoicing, reselling shipping services to other businesses, everything).
The existing frontend is using an ancient version (1.x) of the YUI framework and uses AJAX heavily to refresh the user interface. It's usable, but maintaining and extending it is getting really hard as the project grows larger and larger and more systems are integrated.
So the question is, given this use case, what JS framework do I use and what is a good resource to start learning it?5 -
My friend works for a subsidery of an event organization company.. the sole purpose of the subsidery is to develop/maintene and upgrade their products. The just Started redesigning frontend of the website for the 4th time in last 16 months, because their boss changes their mind every 5minutes.1
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So I've wanted to do / am doing front end for what seems like a while now. My bff does back end and ask me for insight a fair amount and my insight helps or either puts him on the right track. why is it I can more easily understand back end opposed to frontend? Also its taken me far to long to learn js and yet almost completely understand SQL to which I have never written.1
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Post Mortem: Yarn Workspaces
So yarn workspaces are fucken sick, i love them. As long as you don't want to deploy your shit, because your api most certainly needs node_modules, your vue frontend doesn't... -
I'm a college graduate majored in English, and I took 6 months of web publishing class. The class was useless because it was heavily design-based. I went there to learn to code some websites, so I had to learn HTML and CSS myself with W3Schools. After that, I was tossed out to get a job, but there was no junior frontend dev position around my area. I had no idea how hard it was to get a junior frontend dev job until I actively searched for months and found no jobs. Now I lost all the passion for learning to code and motivation to become a frontend dev. I applied for a web designer, and got silently rejected. Maybe that was because I sent a resume and portfolio with "junior web developer" printed on them. I have no desire to do design stuff. However, my major is English, and I want to become a sort of developer. I know there are hundreds of backend jobs, but I'm not sure I could even learn some backend coding alone as a non-major. Now I'm wondering what way I should take. Can somebody please give me advices? There's no one to help me in real life. I'm lost.6
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As a frontend developer, I started learn unreal engine 4 in my spare time instead of build next js framework. I found C++ is very difficult in unreal project, even with the experience of building deep neural network for robot soccer back in university🤔
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What do I need to know to transition from a frontend developer, to a full stack developer?
Right now I am using AngularJS (I know, very old) at my work and we are transitioning to either React or Angular. My goal is to pickup back end tasks so I can eventually become a full-stack developer. What do I need to do to get there?6 -
Even though I'm learning Node.js, I'm still a little confused about the distinction between Node and frontend JavaScript.
Where does frontend JavaScript end, and Node begin? What are the practical distinctions between the two?5 -
Yesterday, I had to set up a demo environment for a project, we are working on.
Everything was okay, frontend loaded, connection to backend is working, database is connected.
10 minutes before I wanted to leave for my well deserved weekend, PO came over: "I can't play any video, I uploaded"
Okay, couldn't be a big issue, it worked when I added this functionality 3 weeks ago, just before my holidays.
A bit under pressure, my girlfriend Was already waiting downstairs, I inspected the database and realized that a table Was not properly filled.
Checked the backend and everything seems fine, so checked the requests from the frontend and realized that the request was almost empty.
So some code, building the request body had to be wrong.
Already 10 minutes late, with a lightly annoyed girlfriend waiting for me, I found the issue but couldn't recognize that I wrote these few lines. A quick check of the git history showed, that my colleage changed my code during my holidays, so I just reverted everything.
After commit and deployment, I called my colleage and told him that I just reverted his changes.
"But now my feature is not working anymore, I had to change it like this!" he answered. I just responded that we will talk about that on monday and look at it together. While I hurried down the stairs, I was thinking why the hell somebody just changes stuff without checking if it affects other functionalities?
This should be basic knowledge for every dev, that if you change existing, working code to make it work with your feature, you have to ensure to not brake anything.
If you can't do that, then create a new function to handle your shit.
In the end, my girlfriend had to wait 30 minutes, because of 4 lines of codes, someone just changed without thinking what else could happen...3 -
Fullstack, Frontend, Backend, Bullstack!
Honestly, times have changed. There is no frontend developer any more. I mean, don't take that as an absolute, obviously there are enough left. Or rather, they probably have never existed. But I cannot fathom how someone can claim he works only frontend, can send off an http request, receive the JSON, put it into a model object, take the model object and put it in a tree and then write logic to search through the tree...
...and at the same time cannot create an endpoint where he would receive a JSON in the backend, put it into a model and save it via ORM to the database.
Or the other way around for all the people who only do backend.
What I get is: Not knowing the language and not knowing the framework. That's why I do Play, Flask, Zend, and Vue.js, but I do not do React.
But if the need arises I am willing to learn a new framework or language.
I hate fiddling with something until it looks just right. I really hate it. But even as a backend developer you cannot escape that. Server-side rendering is not yet dead and it happens in the backend. Or the distinction is kind of mute here.
So I guess what frontend dev vs backend dev actually wants to say is: Design-focused or logic-focused coder. Why don't we use those terms. If we did we could actually connect design focused devs closer to designers and put some of that into their curriculum. But at the moment, all the frontend devs I know keep repeating that they are not professional designers.5 -
Been working frontend on a very large ASP.Net Core project with React. The company is a multi national oil company. I asked for some documentation on their React components, like where is the props, why is this component showing this side-effect and is there a component for X and Y so that you won't have to pay me in order to dig around in the codebase? They told me they will document the frontend when the project is finished (whenever that may be?)
So basically, there won't ever be any documentation then.3 -
Any tips to stop getting pissed at your designer's design?
I was given a frontend task after so long (I'm a backend developer who has frontend experience) and the design is very good except architecture wise it's very difficult to build. It's not impossible, but it's very tricky to implement.
Our client has already approved the design, so I guess there's nothing I can do about it
But I am getting constantly annoyed when implementing the design. Whenever I look at the design, I feel like swearing all the time. I feel the designer is very inconsiderate. The design looks very good at big desktop screen, but some part looks dumb in responsive or tablet.
Does anyone ever feel the same? And maybe have tips for me to get by?
My managers have started telling me to stop saying "it's difficult" or "it's too hard". But it is difficult! And I am getting more annoyed when they tell me that.
Whenever I tell the designer that certain part is not gonna work (because we try to make things general so we can reuse), he will argue and somehow ended up saying "come on, just think how prideful you will be after implementing this".3 -
Is there actually any frontend framework or boilerplate to just code and avoid messing around with old libraries, missing dependencies, no documentation? I'm seriously moving to plain ES6, it feels more flexible :/1
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Has anyone experience with Frontend Testing and can suggest something good?
Note: JavaScript / Node JS3 -
Frontend shananigans continue:
Spent all morning un-ejecting my CRA react app and migrating sass to less... Seriously how is this productive?? -
The days are long right now. The company portal, that I built, is being rebuilt now that we have decided it needs to be responsively designed.
I always knew there would come times in my career, if I leant towards the front end, that periods of time would be taken up with HTML/CSS.
I just didn’t appreciate how soul sucking it can be when you are adjusting margins for 8hrs a day for a few weeks. And how much that is compounded by people changing their minds on things that cascade throughout an increasingly complex system of media queries...how you can spend ages tweaking something only to find it breaks on an another screen size...
The love I found in coding...it is not here...7 -
That moment when a backend dev starts messing with frontend and says "It's just a f.ckin CSS!!" Well, fullstack thing is a myth...2
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Horror story and rant time I guess...
I haven't seen the main developer of this MVC project that I've been working on but I can totally assure that his seniority isn't in frontend development 😠 and I doubt the backend too... Fucking DataTables converted to IDictionaries<string,object>
Guess who need to build on top of the pile of shit!
Anyway, I wasn't really careful about what kind of template I was given to work on a new SPA page, so I'm doing the job given the time, but it's fucking gory:
- matrioska style layers (n.3) without documentation
- partials everywhere
- too much inline styling
- too many <style> sections (n per layer or partial)
- too many <script> sections (n per layer or partial)
- poor CSS styling or no styling at all! (classes without any style nor js association)😠
He's just been lucky that the browser is capable of handling his shit
Now that at the end of this year I'll leave this project (solo fullstack) and need to provide documentation for the next poor souls I was thinking to leave behind something at par of my skills and capabilities but analysing the current mess ticks my brain in a bad way, fuck you Marco!
Fuck you
and your seniority
and the Italian way of perceiving seniority that gives you a higher living in the wrong side of the field 🤬🤬🤬2 -
@ Frontend devs:
Did you see Moon.js framework?
It's a very sad framework although i am not sure why it feels so Angular-ish vue.
But at least they are trying
What do you think5 -
Hello all,
I might be moving to England soon and I'm a drop-out. I have been coding for 5+ years and have quite an amount of experience in my hands. What courses should I consider that can boost my ability to find a job in England? Devops? Backend? Frontend? App Dev? Game Dev? I am interested and have a minor experience in DevOps, main bulk of my experience is in backend, a bit of frontend(not my field but its still coding) the other two i've had no experience in other then debugging and fixing code in several projects i've worked on.
Your help is much appreciated. Thank you.11 -
Can't operate in normal conditions, hmmm... These airplane media systems really need someone to come in and change the game. Linux stack, nice, but most obviously some Linux frontend? 🤔 Although, this is satellite, my rant remains the same! Need to change the game!
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So, I told the interviewer that my frontend skills are bad. He said that I should not worry as the tests where backend centered, good. Later, I got the job, now the interviewer, which happens to be the head of tech in the company I work for, has assigned me two tasks involving 99% of work on the frontend.
FFS, I've been searching on Internet and reading Kendo UI documentation for 4 hours to figure how to trigger the KendoGrid editable popup with populated data to enable the user to update such data. AAAAARGH!!!1 -
[ WEBDEV frontend QUESTION ]
I will need to build a new admin dashboard for representing a lot of data from the api. the API is written in PHP and this won't change. We are currently using jquery to make the data interactive (choose date ranges, different filters and so on). Were currently using morris.js for charts. I'm thinking this would be a good opportunity to learn and use a new js framework to make the data more easily bindable on buttons and selects (not so many listeners on buttons and shit like that).I will be developing the front end on my own, alone, so i mostly have freedom here. I need something that has implementations of chart rendering, and which I could learn in a week or two in the evenings after work (starting to work on this in the next week probably). What are your guys recommendation? Whats the best option for dashboards js wise? I was thinking vue, won't I shoot myself in the foot for using a new technology(for me anyway) right from the bat?2 -
Frontend devs (of any variety):
Do any of you create your own illustrations, animations, etc for the products you create, or is this handled by designers?
At my current place (app and web agency) we leave it all to the designers, but my manager said that at the last few places they'd been (all web agencies), the frontend developers did that stuff themselves4 -
when your application works everywhere, in every situation, for every user, EXCEPT on the fucking device and user of the new Board Member....
...fuck fuck fuck.
(specially because we have a task dedicated specially to test and target CEO and old board members devices) -
"We need to refactor THIS section of the Frontend because BE wants to implement THAT - we will agree the new structure, and we will migrate the previous structure"
- refactoring the app 4 times a year because reasons -
Just wanted to say that netlify is so nice. Just 4 clicks and you continuously deploy your Frontend from a git repo. Even free for personal use 👌2
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Calling out to all frontend devs:
What's your opinion on CSS in JS (e.g. styled-components)?
I really like the encapsulation and the ease of use but I don't like how it makes debugging more difficult.1 -
College writes a API documentation. Refuses do use markdown or simple HTML. We need to use a custom php class.
Each paragraph is a protected function with an array of multiple languages (never gets translated anyway...)
Drupal developers...
I'm a frontend developer maybe i'm missing the point, can someone enlighten me please.1 -
As a junior frontend dev should I rather work in a web agency or in a biggee company that needs a frontend dev for their software?
I would really like to join a web agency but it seems like only small agencies with shit conditions would hire me...1 -
That moment when you get started as a junior frontend and end up having to design a couple databases. I dont know shit about that. 😱 also in between I happen to become sort of unofficial IT staff in this music school. I'm confused. Not a proper rant, but just wtf? At least I'm getting money... someday. Maybe. 😲
At least I'll have my voice and piano lessons covered. 🌟2 -
I got an assignment grom a company I interviewed in to make a simple CRUD app using Node and vue.js.
I have already built the entire server(it even serves html and static files now) but I'm a noob regarding frontend web.
I tried to use webpack and scaffolding tools but they make the job much more complicated than it needs to be.
How do I build a frontend in Vue using only the tags and local files, no special bundlers or tools?2 -
My head is about to explode... Trying to wrap my head around the best way for integrating a suitable frontend solution with a symfony backend.
So many implications, so many opinions, so many possibilities.. A very big project, a lot of requirements, a very small team and most of the colleagues have their main focus on backend development though..
Feeling lost currently, not really sure how to approach this huge topic 😥4 -
Dear frontend dev,
if you can't check whether a variable is defined or not, why do i have to change the back end to accept urlparam='undefined' as valid and replace it with your default value in my backend? Why are you afraid of 40X's? You should be interested in the bugs of your code.
It feels awful to have a middleware in place catching all errors and replacing them with empty 200 responses 😭. All of this because you don't fucking ensure your variables exist before use.3 -
This week I started developing my first serious backend for a customer using node and graph ql, and I'm here as a Frontend Developer. But I have to say I like it. Using Vue.js with axios on Frontend side. Everything feels so intuitiv during coding.1
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what's up with backend devs getting on rants about frontend frameworks? Don't they use frameworks for developing their precious servers? or do they just write the whole thing from scratch?
Shit tards, frontend development is evolving and for the better, we've got awesome frameworks that help us reduce the amount of code we need to write to attain a functionality and in a way that reduces headaches when building a large application and gives superb consistent performance because the code has been production tested a million times! yeah you can use js to build a frontend because its JS it's what it was designed to do, but tell me how reinventing the wheel everytime you make a frontend is useful, and how that is maintainable in the long run when building a large production frontend?
The modern frameworks, help us write modular and reusable components that can be shared and used by anyone for any of their application. They are arming the web with capabilities that are close to what native apps offer and still you keep bitching about it.1 -
Any frontend developers want to help me with my project (Vue)? I have a FOSS web app I'm working on but I'm just really not motivated to work on the frontend; I really don't enjoy frontend development. I would love for someone to contribute and help with the buggy mess that it is.
https://github.com/pxeger/tome
It's a self-hosted notebook and Wiki style app. Read the README for a bit more background. It's built with Python, PostgreSQL, and Vue.js. (You're welcome to help with other parts too of course but the front-end is where I need most help)5 -
Question time, i currently have a project in beginning stages. I has a node-js back-end build with express and sequelize. My current frontend is build in twig. And is within the back-end project structure. Now i have heard that the current hype is to take those separate. What is the best approach, and what frontend should i use? (I was thinking vue as interesting thing)
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I'm a beginning developer but I'm not sure if I want to be a frontend or backend developer.
Thanks!8 -
Complete (finished) configuration of an enterprise java web application: pom.xml
Default boilerplate configuration of an Angular 2 app: about 20 files.
Does anyone know of a frontend framework/platform that I can easily couple with my Spring Data REST backend?5 -
!Rant
New to the whole front end world so pardon me for such a question.
I have a huge set of data about 5-10k records flowing in which needs to be displayed in a tabular form with sorting, filtering, selection addition and deletion.
Is it wise to sort and filter in the front end? Or make multiple calls to backend and perform the operations there?
If in front end what is the best way to perform these operations?
The application is going to be loaded on a screen and left there for users to view. So even local storage could be am option.
Using polymer for frontend so any special tool for this in polymer?3 -
I’m not good at frontend and I’ve accepted that but it’s frustrating because I just am not good at making things look good and I hate spending the time on the looks when I want to just go have fun with the back end.
I will say though getting it to look the way I want is super satisfying as well.
Any advice or resources?2 -
I want to learn front-end and i have offers of two bootcamps.please tell me which is better one-month or frontend-masters.
Note: i don't know anything about front-end1 -
Me: I hate our current graphing frontend, its super hard to do anything more complex in here and it looks like it was made in the last century, we need a more modern solution!
Also me: Uuuugh, this modern graphing frontend lags my browser soooo much!
Why is dealing with graphs so hard? D:1 -
Has anybody worked on ipfs implementing on client side?
Client side i mean ionic app.
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Guys which release of MacBook would be good for me as a Frontend Developer, And is it okay to get a MacBook air ?!13
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I ve made 9 pug templates for 8 responsive pages and use ssr to render all pages' innerHTML content configured & controlled by a remote configure center during this week. Totally worn out.
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The the frontend for mesos' chronos is soooo incredibly slow. With its rest-api looking for job names and starting jobs manually is feasible, but gosh, somebody committed a crime there. (Maybe one is also not supposed to have about 500 jobs in there but that's another issue.)
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So far in my IT class, we have been going through alot of boring html and css. I am so looking forward starting to use php, and getting into the backend development. What do you guys like the most? Frontend or backend?9
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!Rant
I'm diving in the world of polymer. Does someone here have experience with polymer and would you recommend it? And how do you use it?3 -
!rant
How much does a freelance front-end web dev (entry level) charge per hour (average market rate)?
Skills: HTML,CSS, JS,Jquery
Experience: At least 1 or 1.5 years
I've googled and the results that came up are those before 2015/2016.
Thanks in advance.5 -
Guys , i need help about frontend framework and seo
which is the best frotend framework that work good with SEO ?4 -
I really want to divide this frontend into two parts, one that faces the users and other for administrators so I can release changes on both without works on one part blocking the other, but, I have many question, like, how do I manage authentication in two different React projects from one login page?
Maybe there are more problems than benefits, what do you think?3
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