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jjhiza
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Let me begin by giving props to the KDE team for being proactive, and working to improve the ecosystem in which they exist.
https://fossbytes.com/kde-slimbook-...

With that said, I'm sitting here wondering why bigger organizations - companies with significantly more clout - can't manage to do the same thing. Canonical is so busy, fapping at the notion of competing in the mobile space (they won't though) that they've lost sight of their core audience - computer users. While they insist on trying to piss in Google's Cheerios, smaller teams are 1) pushing out better firmware and software, and 2) are now creating (seemingly) good hardware as well.

As the public face of Linux (unfortunately), Canonical and the Ubuntu team have an obligation to lead from the front. In neglecting to do so, they do a disservice to the entire Linux community. KDE, Manjaro, Arch, Mate, Debian, etc are all doing more with less, and they're offering better end products than Canonical has in the last decade.

/rant

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  • 3
    Dell is cranking out ubuntu laptops in decent numbers just saying
  • 1
    That's true, and I applaud Dell for that. Same with System76, but Canonical isn't driving the bus on those projects - the OEMs are. KDE seems to be in the driver's seat on this Slimbook project, which is why I think the project is praiseworthy.

    Canonical has the ability to do the same thing, and in a much larger scale, but they choose not to because they're focusing on a tech arena they have no hope of competing in.
  • 0
    Don't get me wrong, the Ubuntu phone had me excited for a bit, but the code is janky and the development process has been painfully slow. I believe that part of the problem lies with the codebase (it's based on Cyanogenmod). If Ubuntu had based on AOSP, I think development would be easier, but that's a technical problem...

    I simply don't see the point. There's nothing a Ubuntu device can do that an Android or iOS device can't - no defining feature or technology that can justify its existence, and there's no way anyone at Canonical can be sitting around thinking, "hey, this device is good enough to take 15%+ of the mobile market". It simply won't happen. I'm of the opinion that Canonical and Ubuntu should stick to what they know - desktop computing - and do more to promote it, instead of dabbling in a market they'll never gain traction in.
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    My fault, I was thinking of the original incarnation of Ubuntu Touch... That had a CM base. As for scopes - I'm not sold yet. Search is great, but is there an original use case for it? I'm not so sure.

    Google Search already pulls up apps, files, and web search results on the fly. What does scopes bring to the table that other search features don't already do? I'm just not sure if a search feature is a great selling point for a consumer-facing product. For the Ubuntu phone to be successful, I think they need to push the envelope, and bring something truly inspiring to the table. Snap packages could be a unique feature, but it needs more work and more support.

    I'll keep my eye on the project, but I really feel like Canonical could do more good by creating a real hardware and distribution partnership, and push Linux into the mainstream.
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    @Jop- I was thinking the same thing, until I did a search and ended up on the Ubuntu Touch FAQ... It's half true, they started with drivers and the kernel from Cyanogen. The rest is all Debian. Now most of the Android bits are gone.
  • 0
    Hahaha the slimbook (Ubuntu) server is down:

    http://kde.slimbook.es/
  • 1
    The link you posted works just fine on my end...
  • 0
    Well it's not really down but it does return a 403...

    @jjhiza weird, I'm still getting an error.
  • 1
    @spongessuck, curious... I'm just viewing it on my phone in Chrome. How are you viewing the page?
  • 0
    @jjhiza Firefox and chrome on my phone.
  • 0
    @spongessuck works for me, chrome on Android. Also, did you mean to say 403 (as in blocked) or did you mean 404 (not found)?
  • 0
    @marens101 403 forbidden.
  • 0
    @spongessuck is it possible that your IP or MAC address has been blocked then? Or that you are on a restrictive network?
  • 0
    @jeeper With shitty, broken drivers.
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    @capnsoup but they are marketed to people who can fix them lol
  • 0
    @jeeper lol This is true!
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