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rutee071960528dSome companies are out of touch from reality and have no idea how much a developer costs, even worse if they are from third world countries. I had some reach out to me saying they offer "competitive" salary and benefits. When I asked how much, it's the same salary I had a long time ago and their benefits are like standard ones with even less vacation days. There are also many cases where a recruiter asks me how much I'm making and I hear them gulp when I tell them.
This could be pride or just ignorance. I've been in a company like this before. Manager always reminds us that they don't need experienced developers since they can train fresh graduates. It did not turn out well for the project and their client eventually vanished.
devdiddydog54928dSimilar stupidity: a large institution is unable to attract decent developers because they offer a wage way lower than what any experienced developer can get pretty much anywhere else.
Solution: hire consultants instead, while searching for this unicorn senior dev that will work for peanuts.
A lot of companies really don't value who they have and have stupid policies that make hiring new folks for higher pay easier than rewarding their own people.
justDeployIt34428dThis is sadly common in some companies, they always underestimate how long it takes for a new hire to be productive, in some departments it can take years. Yes, years to get to the level of that person that they didn't want to keep.
And the funny thing about such places, they always talk about loyalty (so it could be a flag to watch ;) )
IntrusionCM631328dIn general, most managers are afraid of a transparent loan system.
Never let the employees know what each other gets as a loan...
If they gave person A a rise of 40 % all others would want one, too.
And if u don't give everyone else a rise, you need an argument why... If u need an argument, you would most likely give out hints about how the loan compares to person A - which would most likely lead to a lot of rage, as in most companies loan equality doesn't exist, rather there are extreme differencey.
I'm a fan of transparent loan systems. Loan equality not really (no has nothing to do with gender) - as some people take their work seriously and others force those people to work more by slacking off.
Voxera948528d@rutee07 recruiting graduates and train them work of you either use them to sit of time while more senior devs impress new customers, thats the bad way.
Or if you develop in-house or long term software and hire long term, like at minimum planing for several years do the graduate have time to grow into a senior. The in-house/long term part is so that you have a stable software that they learn over time. And this also requires an existing stable base of devs to help teach the new hires.
Hire graduates to meet a deadline is probably a bad idea.
If you need help now, graduates will not work so well as it takes time to get productive in many cases.
rutee071960528d@Voxera True. Some of the then fresh graduates still work there after many years and have been promoted to senior. The only problem is they get paid very little. Most are rushed into a "senior" title with a very small pay raise. When I worked there, they have team leaders who earn as much as I do when I was still a junior.
I wish companies would pay their home-grown employees more but the companies I worked with always do the opposite. :/
ars168528dBean counters can only think about the next quarter. And that's on a good day.
I mean... the last company I worked for decided to fire me (their only dev that goes beyond "I just entered college"-style development) in favour of 2 people that did the administration (one of which was mostly browsing a forum for some shitty 6y/o girl's game) and 1 person that did coaching (as in jobcoaching, not "how do you write decent fucking code" coaching...
Sidenote: It was a web dev company :^)
JoshnaSmith127dSame scenario in each company.
hjk101329126dCould be a policy thing. Max raise 5% without promotion.
Hiring new people no such policy.