Story of me trying to connect to a colleague from neighbouring team with 12 hour difference timezone:

Me: Hey! Shall we catch up to discuss a feature that will help us dominate the world?

She: Sure.. what time works for you?

Me: Since we have timezone challenge, I'd say boundary times would be good so none of us have to stretch.

She: umm.. good..

Me: How about 07:30 PM your time?

She: oh sweetie.. evenings don't work for me.. I want my evenings free..

Me: fine.. how about 07:00 AM your time?

She: no darling.. I am not a morning person..

Me: GO FUCK YOURSELF BITCH. I CAN'T COMPLY WITH EVERY TANTRUM OF YOURS.

And with that.. I didn't respond to her invites which were either super early for me or super late. Let her keep waiting..

Juniors with ego are shittiest folks to work with.

Wow reverse 1950s with the sweetie and darling. Border times are reasonable…for world domination. Clearly she’s not ambitious enough.

If you are in a lead role can't you just say that X oclock is the time?

@Demolishun I can but I don't want to an asshole co-worker.

@atrabilious oh the good old times of 50s. How nuch I moss those.

@Floydimus now you see why assholes exists. Tell me you realized this now.

@galileopy I never said assholes don't exist.

@Floydimus I never said you denied their existence.

I feel your pain 😫 I guess she too weak to conquer the world

@milk she too weak to even extend a little for a meeting which she wants.

@ostream well yes but if you thousands 9f employees are fine working with the model and you are unable to then you have all the right to fuck off to another job instead of bullying the other team member to comply with your tantrums.

@ostream I guess no organization is powerful enough to create timezone overlaps. Maybe after achieving world domination, they get access to some funky continent-moving tech which would allow moving timezones closer together.

@ostream time should be abolished

Even I wouldn’t want meetings outside of work hours. Some people have families and life outside work 😝

@ostream while what you say makes sense and this is something I miss about my previous job, a great WLB.

The reason I picked this is they gave me a kickass offer + I am flexible with my schedule. We have calls in morning and late evening. The entire day is for myself and I can do whatever the fuck I want as long as I am delivering quality on time.

@electrineer this.

If I had the pay of a junior I'd feel perfectly entitled not to give a shit about a meeting at 7:00pm.

@IHateForALiving

Tha ks for assuming that the person is junior by pay and not by their age and number of years in work force or even the job experience.

And with that logic, anyone above the manager should be working 24/7/366.

I'd love to use the product you build. I am sure they'd be broken like the logic in your thought process.

On one hand, her demeanor sounds completely ridiculous. I wouldn't go along with that either.

That being said, I notice @Floydimus that you have multiple times a week problematic encounters with various different people, new ones everytime.

Are you 100% certain your perception of what people are telling you and what they actually ARE telling you is correct? You might work in a complete shithole, but you also might have a warped perception of your social interactions.

If everything is wrong with everyone around you, then it is advisable to at least make sure that's actually the case, you know.

@Maer hahahaha good observation.

While I have many good interactions than the bad, I prefer to showcase (rant out) omly bad ones to take out my frustration.

Otherwise, it's all good. But the general acceptance is that wide majority is stupid and I consider myself equally dumb.

@Floydimus I'm assuming you give a junior the pay of a junior and the responsibilities of a junior. That's kinda what they're in for.

My products are mostly broken af, but that's because PHP developers are so deeply in love with Laravel. Remember kinds: say yes to drugs, say no to Laravel.

@IHateForALiving okay.. clarification.. the person in context is junior to me but not as per industry standards.

Also, she has signed up for the role and if she does not like it, she can fuck right off. Especially when interns are coordinating better than her.

Also, I love how sportingly you took the criticism. Respect++

Great, all good

@Floydimus You are not being an asshole if you say this is the time. You are solving a problem. I would say 7am or 7pm, choose one.

@Demolishun well all of my team is very adjusting. But I see your point as well.

"Not a morning person" WTF?! This is a job and not entertainment. She needs a good kick in her snowflake butt because she fails to realise that with a 12 hours difference, any additional comfort on her side goes at your expense.

Obviously, I assume that this is not some stupid shit that could be done as well via some well-written emails.

Btw., last month, I had a series of 4 hours telecons starting at 6AM my time. However, my American co-workers were off even worse because that was 9PM their time (i.e. until 1 AM their time). All of that so that the Asian participants had a nice starting time around noon because they were the paying customers.

@Floydimus Okay then.

For what it's worth, I noticed such behavior with myself in the past. This was true for social interactions as well as for example code analysis.

For example when I saw some odd approach I immediately went to a place of, "goddamn, what kind of idiot programmed this, do they have no idea what they are doing?"

Since then I've been kind of training myself to approach such encounters in a more positive way or at least a neutral one. This was motivated among other things by the fact that once I dug deeper into such issues, I oftentimes times discovered a reasoning by the other party which made me understand their motives. Meaning often my preconceptions were premature.

That doesn't change the fact, that there are instances where someone acted not necessarily in the best way they could or even should have. But changing the approach and giving people the benefit of a doubt actually does improve my life I found.

I used to think of myself as quite the cynic.

@ostream timezones not existing doesnt really fix the issue though...

@YADU Careful, you will confuse the flat earthers.

@Demolishun wait... What shape is earth if not flat? O.O

@Floydimus toroidal ...

You can tell the shape of the earth by context. Everything we can see in the sky (barring very small objects) are spherical. Why would our planet be an exception?

@Demolishun WHATTTTTT?

Stop spreading misinformation or I'll take you to the edge and throw you into Australia underneath.

@ostream Oh, I guess that is a misunderstanding. I expected that it is not overtime (as in working more hours than agreed on) but shifting the time you work. It probably depends on the contract, mine states that I have to work X hours a week and it does not specify mandatory start and end time. But I see your point about not wanting to work overtime, I wouldn't do that as well.

But shifting my daily working time as an exception, I think that is fair to ask for.