+ this post if you believe web developers shouldn’t touch fucking SEO, im sick of this shit still after 12 yrs…wtffff, am i wrong ?????? Please help

Web developers should touch SEO.

(Web) Application developers should not.

One has a design component to it, the other does not.

Web Developers should know what SEO is and how to use symantics

Web Developers should not be responsible for the content related to it.

@C0D4 so who is going to maintain the SEO HTML headers?

@sariel who ever is responsible for it.
Surely the CMS has a Field(s) for Seo input.

Otherwise, what? The dev is suppose to magic up awesome keywords and descriptions from the pages content?

@C0D4 and if there's no CMS?

@sariel if it's a static site, and you expect someone other then the dev to maintain it... that's kind of the devs fault 👀

@C0D4 of course, because a dev getting paid $60k a year will go out of their way to build a dynamic website because they don't want to deal with SEO.

Makes perfect sense.

Last time I checked, we build what the guys paying ask for. A CMS isn't always what they ask for, and isn't necessarily what they will accept.

@sariel 😂 what the customer asks for and what the customer actually needs rarely align. That's why I don't freelance.

If the staff behind the scenes need to input data, you give them a means to input said data. 🤷‍♂️ or be the customers bitch for eternity and make changes for free.

@C0D4 can't disagree with that, but whatever pays the bills 😆.

Just make sure there's a minimum one hour charge for every change.

Web developers should at least know the basics of SEO.
It's important because if you develop a website on the wrong technology, SEO becomes impossible to manage. For example building it on Vue or Angular and only rendering the website in the browser is a big no-no.

You can build the coolest, most innovative website but it will be completely useless if nobody finds your website in search engines!
I've seen such projects fail...

@sariel The mindset "whatever pays the bills" is what leads to huge legacy cluster fucks and failed, expensive projects.
If we onky build what the customer wants, it's always going to be complete shit. We are the specialists in development, they have the munnys.

@PonySlaystation I don't disagree, but I'm not going to over my original estimates if I'm not getting paid.

That's just bad business.

@sariel Yeah, I didn't mean it as additional cost but as a general way of doing the job.

@sariel ideally the content creator as they should be in sync. SEO is way more about the contents of the page (and the speed it's delivered) than about headers.
Most cms systems have good plugins for authoring that and even check SEO grade with recommendations. All this without intervention of the developer.

This was response of the second response. SEO as a concept should be something web developers are all familiar with. If there is no CMS who is authoring the content? If that is you than you should do the SEO...