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Shouldn’t you be asking for sex instead of gender when it comes to a medical app? I can’t think of a reason why gender would be relevant (correct me if you think I’m wrong).
Sex and gender are not the same, and are both non-binary, so neither just the options man/woman or male/female would be complete. -
@bigmonsterlover ok so what was @GiddyNaya to do? Get his country to change its legislation so that medical authorities accept "other" as a valid answer?
What the Apple reviewer did was hypocritical. He accepted the review probably knowing very well the value "other" wouldn’t really be taken into account since it’s obvious the app developer wasn’t going to handle it properly. Hence showing no true consideration for trans people -
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@robbietoppert @bigmonsterlover
By the way I’m not against including it as an option. Just saying it’s useless if it is not accounted properly but you’re leading people into thinking it is.
What OP did was a basically a moral hack, which to me is contrary to what you guys want to see achieved -
@black-kite agreed. It’s not only useless, it’s wrong. It pollutes your data, and it’s ethically questionable.
At least register the data. What your consumers do with that data is up to them. Not to mention the pain of potentially updating the api contact to another data type ugh.. -
@robbietoppert it is a reason, yes, but sex is still quasibinary
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@johnmelodyme an anus 😐
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@iiii 🫣🫣🫣🫣
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@johnmelodyme is that a yes/no question?
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@electrineer no it is more of whether you are the giving or receiving 🤭
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@robbietoppert I read somewhere that there are about as many intersex people as there are natural redheads in the world. to say they don't count is pretty bonkers
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@iiii sex is not a binary, that's a misconception from early studies of genetics. people were quick to say xx was female and xy was male, but in reality xxy and other forms of "sexual chromosomes" are common, specially in different animals. what does happen is that when you add y you get a penis, that's mostly it, but it's not a binary. you couldn't know your chromosomes unless you got a dna test
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@darksideofyay do I really have to add the redundant "in humans case" when we're talking about humans specifically?
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@iiii still not a binary, x and xxy are relatively common in humans
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@darksideofyay mind you, sex is mostly based not directly on chromosomes but "does it give birth" and "does it provide sperm" in humans. Chromosomes were found later and the most prominent kind is XX and XY, but X is also a female and XXY is also a male because both correspond to the original "specification". In biology overall, sex is not assigned by chromosomes, but by biological role of providing sperm or eggs for sexual reproduction.
The uncommon part starts when the organism provides both or none. -
@iiii what if you have both?
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@darksideofyay I've mentioned that: it's a rare exception. This case is called intersex (for humans. Some animals have sex fluidity)
And those rare exceptions do not make sex non-binary. It's quasibinary at worst: binary for the most part, and breaks binarity for rare exceptions. -
@huzairuje I do not fully understand. Are you irritated at the fact that I have to explain such mundane things or what?
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@nebula yes please
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@nebula how about both? Both is good!
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Had a similar situation about birthday.. Out app need birthday for KYC verification and we had that in our registration flow. Apple forced us to move that further in the app.
Thing that frustrates the most is that everytime you send a build you talk with a different person.
One more thing .. Apple complained about Delete Account feature. They deleted a provided test account and complained that they cannot sign in.. Really, and what where you thinking it will happen -
@robbietoppert in some nations, both mean the same thing. There is no idea of “expression of one’s gender”. No one in those nations have heard of it, and would call you crazy if you said both terms mean different things.
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@darksideofyay human beings really cannot see. There are many people who have sight, but many who don’t.
So, when an alien arrives and asks “can humans see things?”, we must answer “no”.
Just found the best dev ever.
https://alcohollick.com/tfw.html
Best xcode review ever
Uploaded an app to Appstore and it was rejected because the Gender dropdown at registration only has "Male" and "Female" as required selectable options. The reviewer thought it was right to force an inclusion of "Other" option inside a Medical Service app that is targeting a single country which also only recognizes only Male/Female as gender.
Annoyingly, I wrote back a dispute on the review:
Hello,
I have read your inclusion request and you really shouldn't be doing this. Our app is a Medical Service app and the Gender option can only be either Male or Female based on platform design, app functionality and data accuracy. We are also targeting *country_name* that recognizes only Male/Female gender. Please reconsider this review.
{{No reply after a week}}
-- Proceeds to include the option for "Other"
-- App got approved.
-- Behind the scene if you select the "other" option you are automatically tagged female.
Fuck yeah!
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