If you’re ignoring accessibility on the web, you’re making UIs exclusively for American white rich healthy neurotypical straight cisgender male Chrome users with gigabit internet and top of the line computers.

Yes sometimes I write apps that even I can't use them 🤡

Pfffft this is the kind of dumb takes I'd expect to see screencaped as a twitter post 🤣

Sorry Kiki, that's just not true. What sort of accessibilty would enable the UI for someone of a different skin tone, socio-economic group or sexual preference? No such code exists, probably never will.

Accessibility is not just important for the web but for all frontends.

And as @spongegeoff said correctly, it’s not about gender/sex/ethnicity but about disabilities.

@spongegeoff lower wage socioeconomic groups can’t afford a pc that can comfortably run your poorly optimized js bloatware

Unless it works on 1366x768 Celeron laptop in 60fps, it’s bloated

@kiki js bloatware? Not me. I'm in favour of fast being the norm, which will then also be acceptable even on end-of-life hardware. OTOH, I don't think the general population should go without good stuff until everyone can have it - things only get built (and later, become affordable) because there is some sort of market funding early development at higher price levels.

I'm not very much into frontend, but isn't accessibility smth about enabling people with disabilities to use the UI? Like high-contrast or alternative colours for color-blind folks, special fonts and zoomed text for lads with poor vision, text-audio-reader text for those completely blind, and so on?

How does a website's accessibility relate to a user's:

- financial state?

- geolocation?

- gender or sexual preference?

- network bandwidth?

How does that relate to website's performance (FPS, javascript, etc)?

I might be wrong about accessibility, I'm not a FE dev, but that's where I find it confusing

Hey, don't be sexist. Gender and sex don't matter in UI design.

Also don't be racist - Skin color and phenotype don't matter either.

Not only does accessibility mean enabling people with disabilities to use the thing, but it also improves usability for everyone else.

@electrineer how [the 'everyone else' part]? Genuine qn

@netikras accessibility is never done _for_ a group, because the goal is to remove all segregation, e.g. remove dividing people into groups

@Oktokolo actualllllly. When you want to target male/female/whatever audience, you *do* make a different UI design. So it does have a place.

As for accessibility, it's more that every person needing accessibility has different needs for it. Maybe there are trends that could be targeted to a specific sub group of people.

Generalized female brain perceives color differently from a generalized male brain, for example. Socioeconomics & cultural background affect what you appealing etc.

There's a grain of truth hidden behind the aggressive approach.

@netikras you make your UI work for every group, but don't assume groups and never make something exclusive for a group. You make your UI accessible to the screenreader, but you don't assume a person with sceenreader will be blind, and that sceenreaders are used just by blind people. You just make the monitor optional for your UI. Same for keyboard navigation. You don't think about the profile of a person using it, you just make your website work without a mouse, for every person who wants to do things this way.

@lankku this is the definition of exploiting biology to sell more. This is bad. This is spyware.

@kiki yeah, I'm more towards psychological tort...exploi...marketing myself. But I'm not afraid to use every weapon in my arsenal. ;)

@netikras
@kiki already put it well for UIs, but I'll add an analogy from physical life. If you make the entrance of a shop directly accessible for a wheelchair without a narrow or steep ramp, it's also very easy to walk there. If you make the entrance easy to recognise, you make it accessible for people with visual impairments, but it's also easy to recognise for everyone else.

@lankku you have 10 years left at best.