I cant believe its impossible to find a dev job even with a computer science degree. What have I wasted 6 years of my life for then if no one values a degree? Fuck you

Having a degree just puts you at the same level than other people with degrees. You need to keep learning and doing things to spice up your CV and differentiate from the rest.

@cafecortado Lol. How am i supposed to do that if no one wants to hire me in the first place. Just because i ask for a higher salary ($9/hour) they reject me and go to hire other losers who accept to work as slaves for $3/hour. Hows that my fault

@b2plane it's your fault because you think your worth 300% more then the competition 😅

If you are worth that, prove it.

@b2plane I'm not gonna say it's fair, but you can always develop through personal projects and learn different skills

Lol. My first Dev salary was 3$ per hour too. It quickly raised to... 15$ within half of a year though at the same job

@C0D4 i am. But just because i graduated and dont have 10 years of experience they refuse

@darkwind what tech stack you worked in

@b2plane firstly i had finished six years of uni too.

And secondly, I got hired as Python backend developer.
But... I unexpectedly had also DevOps engineering responsibilities (learned in the process, and considering that I was the only one responsible for Infrastructure, I preferred to deal with it as a code)

And increase in salary I got because also... Became software architect / main Dev (and frontend developer) in addition.

Well, I was whole Startup :laughing:

To this day I remain being backend developer with DevOps engineering orientation. Only web stuff is my domain

Authentic image of me from my first job

@darkwind i had to pickup new stacks in each job i had, never really worked in a fixed position nor with a fixed language

@darksideofyay lucky.
Although I don't complain.
At new job learning AWS and many corresponding stuff is big enough to me.

I satisfy urges for new languages and tech in pet projects in addition. Currently all pet projects go in Golang, planning to go for Java next

Consider a client who wants a job done. He approaches two juniors: you, a uni graduate with no xp, and a self-taught John who's been tinkering with stuff. John asks for $3, you ask for $9, for the same job done, for the same tech level.

Why tf would they choose you if they could get 3 Johns for that kind of money...? And either of you have no xp, meaning you both would need to be taught on the go.

Uni does not teach xp nor languages. That you gain as you work

That is why we here don't use Universities to teach people how to do practical jobs. Instead most people do a apprenticeship (is that the correct English word?), where you work 3-4 days a week and visit a job-specific school 1-2 days a week to learn a job for 3-4 years. After that you have theoretical knowledge and experience.

You can still go for what a degree actually is meant for: Science!

4$/h I got alot todo for youfor that rate lol.

Don't really get why you keep complaining about this when you have made thousands of dollars with angular projects...

So, put them up in your portfolio and apply for those.

If your previous work is really at the level you value yourself at, there won't be any problem getting selected.

@CoreFusionX those projects lasted between 2 weeks and 3-4 months. Theyre over and i cant find similar ones. I need income

Well. Then, as I also said in other rants of yours...

Either, do migrate to some other country (shouldn't be hard with your resume), or accept that your provable level is not at the rate you think it is.

I mean, last time it was you bitching about getting rejected for not knowing the difference between promises and observables, despite making thousands of dollars with angular.

Frankly, i dont have degree. Over past what.. 6 years... Fuck, time flies... Over past 6 years my pay gone up shy of 7 times.

Just matter of sticking it to your grind and honestly... Getting better at it.

Sometimes I get the impression that degree is kindda scam or shouldnt be pushed to so young people, rather like 25-35 age range. Or maybe im wrong. Idk.

@DubbaThony at 35 I'm not seeing the point of one, beyond a debt.

@b2plane
Most graduates fresh out of uni don't know much more than a half decent self taught with similar years.

Sure there may be specifics that one knows the other doesn't but at an overall level, it's tick for tack really.

What the world seems to believe is a degree is an automatic 6 figure career in Silicon Valley and you couldn't be further away from the truth.

My first job was flipping burgers for $7.50 / hour, my first IT job was $15 / hour.

Everyone starts somewhere, but just be real with yourself.

Now I'm not saying that SV job with 130k starting point can't be achieved, but it's not achievable by the masses that's for sure.